Too much I’d say. I’d prefer to provide zero value to them but haven’t quite figured out that lifestyle yet.
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You could work for the government, a cooperative or not work at all. If you work for a corporation then the art is to do as little actual work and get paid as much as possible. Always remember, what really matters is what your boss believes you provide in share holder value, not what you actually do.
Also lower consumption. Not as much to save the planet, although it helps, but mainly to built up a bit of wealth to be able to say fuck you to your boss, if need be.
The first paragraph is also consistent with "why capitalism works" in case you need a reply because you're being called out
Yeah I do all this already haha but getting to zero is quite the challenge in a consumer society. Still need to buy food, clothes, pay rent, etc.
Money and trade are not exclusive to capitalist society. Division of labor is just a good idea in improving productivity and you somehow need to distribute that. The problem with that is doing so in a fair manner, which is where capitalism fails. To be fair nothing is ever going to be perfect, but capitalism giving to capitalist is just inherintly exploiting.
So to actually consume ethically, we need system change. It is usually more productive to change a small part of the system, which then improves the situtation for a lot of people in a small way, then to try to improve everything for you. So stuff like starting a cooperative, union work, making the government buy up certain businesses and so forth, is how that is done. You then hope/know that others will do it in other areas as well. Obviously joing those projects helps as well. So being a customer at a cooperative bakery or becoming a member of a credit union for example.
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Work for yourself. Then you have no shareholders! Any value you provide goes to you!
No no no, you become your own shareholder which means you must become homeless to fuck the shareholder over. /s
I saw a disgusting / distopian YouTube ad where the slogan at the end was "we invest in people because people grow the economy". How money-focused have you got to be to think that's a good thing?
If you have to ask then no that should be all you think about and do.
Odds are that you are a stockholder. Do you have a retirement? Or money in a bank?
I mean, I get what people mean when they say that, but it's ill-informed. This from a year ago:
The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks even with market participation at a record high
Meanwhile, the bottom 50% of Americans held just 1% of all stocks in the third quarter of 2023. -source
Usually when people refer to the shareholders, they mean the 1% who own like half of all the wealth in the world.