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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, she did a lot for shinning a light on the struggles of trans people. She did fucking nothing for the stereotype of women drivers...

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Honest question from an ally. She was Bruce and going by masculine verbage then. Is it still misgendering them by referring to them as such when talking about the murder?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If Bob Smith invented a new device and then became a doctor, would you say Dr. Bob Smith invented the device or just Bob Smith invented it? It is correct to use current terms to refer to what a person did. People don't care what a person used to be called. They just want to know who invented the device.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This makes it make sense. Thanks homie.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now kiss. All the homies give forehead kisses

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 1 hour ago

Forehead‽ Na give the homies legit smooches! (Iffy's skit on smarty-pants)

[–] waldfee@feddit.org 13 points 4 hours ago

Yes, her name-change applies retroactively, so when you talk about something that she has done, you may say that she did that

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They literally dont see the difference. Making fun of Catelyn's shitty behavior and crimes and making fun of trans women in general is one and the same to them. They think that actions necessarily stem, fundamentally, from the "kinds" of people they are. Everyone is a characticture, a stereotype.

"You're gay? Well you're a leftie, socialist, gun-hating, pedophile who speaks effeminately, dresses flamboyantly, and does drag" They wouldnt even know how to handle a gay man that wears carhartt and camo, has a big bushy beard, votes Republican and owns a gun store, becuase such a thing is self-contradictory to them. How can this masculine beast of a guy be attracted to other men and want to have sex with them? It doesn't compute.

It's why gay men, black men, women and others that join Republican groups, people that don't fit the mold, find themselves often targetted with hatred and derision by their own "allies". It's not just that they are hateful bigots (and they are), but that they genuinely do not actually believe that they can be sincere in their shared beliefs because they aren't the right kind of people.

They are literally deciding Charlie Kirk's assassin must have been a leftie based entirely on the possibility that he might have had a sexual relationship with a trans roommate. Yes, a big part of that conclusion is grasping at anything to escape culpability and scape goat the left as usual, but they do also fully beleive that that is damning evidence. Becuase right wingers never have anything but herero-normative sex lives. Dont tell Grindr.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

I learned to stop working off that strict either-or dichotomy when I met my first girlfriend. She was the crunchy blissed out (read: permanently stoned) type who was all about PLUR, good vibes, and hemp jewlery. At least until you brought up abortion, immigration, or any other conservative boogeyman. Then she was Pat Buchanan with a redheaded wig and a copy of Billy Breathes.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are we allowed a measure of schadenfreude at the trans person that joined the anti trans party being mocked by the transphobes they tried to court with hate for a different "other"?

Because that's the part I like.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Reminds me of the "Jew for Hitler" folk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

Ffs turns out there were two similar groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Vanguard

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 30 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is like saying you can't make fun of Kristi Noem because she's a woman. If you mock her for being a woman you're a piece of shit, if you mock her for all of the horrible things she does and says you're fine. Her sex and gender have nothing to do with her being an awful stain on humanity (and dogkind).

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's like saying you can't make fun of JD Vance for being a couch fucker. Oh wait, you can.

Sorry(I stole this gif)

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, you see. What youre doing here is making light of the sexual assault of that finely crafted Italian couch. Sexual assault against seating happens every day, and its no laughing matter.

For anyone reading this, is you or anyone you know has a couch or chair that has suffered a sexual assault by a parent or other family member, please know that you are not alone. Please call 555-26824, and speak to one of our SAS(Seating assault specialists) volunteers today.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

my poor chesterfield will never sit the same.

[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Buckle up, buckaroo!

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

that they always use "can not do it" is kind of telling that they dont understand anything at all. or often they say "are not allowed to"

It is like they are saying i cant hit because of the law, instead of not wanting to hurt someone

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Okay, I grew up in Oklahoma, so I think I can explain what's happening here.

To start with, there has been a conservative faction that's outlined seven key areas of control they need to capture to turn America into a theocracy. They came up with the plan before I was born, and it's cut from the same cloth as Project 2025.

One of those areas is education, and they've done a fantastic job of butchering the education system in large swathes of America, leading to what you've described. Where I grew up, education wasn't about thinking, it was about memorizing facts so you could pass tests. Everything got boiled down to a yes/no, and questions were met with "because I said so" at best. At worst, you can get sent to the principal's office for asking too many questions because it's "disruptive".

As an example, in elementary school, I asked what happened if I tried to subtract a big number from a small number. The teacher scoffed and told me that you can't have less than zero, which caused the class to make fun of me for asking a stupid question.

So yeah, they probably don't actually understand why they're not supposed to hit people, they just know they can't because the authority figure says no.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is that I tend to believe you can in fact joke about anything, including being transgender.

What they usually fail to get is that being a raging transphobic asshole and covering it up saying "it's a joke" is a very different thing.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

The basic problem they run into is that jokes are supposed to be funny, and conservatives aren't funny

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 hours ago

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that shitty people are distributed through the population. There are shitty people in every single subgroup.

And an annoyingly high number of them are far more famous that I like.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how making fun of how she looks is considered. It's in bad taste to make fun of someone's appearance of course but I think there's probably some line where it crosses into transphobia.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Thought you were talking about Kristi Noem for a minute and making fun of maga face.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago

She could be an office chair, I'll still make fun of her shitty ass.

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone -3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

There's always an exception to the rule and Caitlyn " I killed a family in a car crash and got away with it absofukinglutely Scott free" Jenner is one of them.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Well which rule you talking about here? Because the post is more saying you can mock her to high heaven for the things she's done and the horrible piece of shit that she is but mocking her for being trans is what's a no no. At that point you're firing stray bullets at people who are just existing. Probably won't make her feel bad because she's insulated to high hell but will make the trans people who see that behavior feel fucking horrible.

Can mock her for being a cunt all you want, just can't mock her for being trans because she did nothing wrong by coming out to herself and the world. She did do a whole lot wrong by constantly supporting republicans, saying she was against gay marriage to Ellen's face (A cunt in her own right but that's a whole other story), and turning someone into roadkill without seemingly a second thought.

Only way I'm using the word trans against her in an insulting tone is the fact that despite her being trans her support of the community is utterly transparent. Fuck her and the horse she rode in on that I assume trampled someone in the process.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Well, Donald Trump is a piece of shit. And people routinely say things like "White men ruin the world!". So, if its OK to say that, why wouldnt it be ok to say something about Jenner in the same vein? Why is it ok to make general statements about some, but not others? Perception, maybe? After all, "men" are supposedly in control of everything, right? So saying "fucking men!!!" is fine. Its "punching up". Yet, inside the ranks of men are a lot of people who have never done anything wrong. Worse, a lot of them are victims. We often talk about "Men" being violent, but we almost never talk about them being the victims of violence at a rate of over 80% globally according to the UNODC. Yet still, its ok to make jokes about male rape, especially in a prison setting.

So for me, its ok to generalise about men, then its ok to generalise about everyone.

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much any of them, I mean that in the general sense of it all, not specifically out of the points you made, she's a vile human being who says and does shit that is so abhorently hypocritical it's almost perverse. So I have no respect for them as a human being, their gender identity plays no role in her being a cunt.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Completely off topic, but my favorite blasphemy is currently "Get behind me, Satan! Pull my hair, Satan!"