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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

im slowly turning into raul castro

[–] spudnik@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

The first one is for practice, to make sure we have the process down correctly. The second is the one that counts. And the third? The third is just for me chefs-kiss

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're running for LOCAL OFFICE. You don't need to field these questions. Cuba and Venezuela are not your concern.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

At least with Israel they can say "NYC is largest population of US Jews, plus generally Americans are concerned about an ongoing genocide, so it is slightly relevant to the NYC mayoral position"

But the mayor of NYC needs no position on Venezuela, it's really easy to just say nothing instead of cosigning war crimes

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

but if you've got dogshit opinions please do air them so everyone knows who you really are

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

Fuck. There's no pragmatic reason to fold on this, gusanos in NYC aren't going to tank his race. This is just naked ideology and opportunism.

I issue a formal apology to whomever it was I argued with some months ago in defense of Zohran. I didn't expect a ton from him but I expected better than this. I was wrong. I'm sorry I was wrong. I tried to go back in my comment history to find you and give you the gloating rights you deserve, but it crapped out after 10 pages of looking.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Who are these statements even for? The right will see it as a bold faced lie, people on the far left will hate these statements and see it as a betrayal of core values, and I guess people on the centre left get to use it as a token statement to try shut down right wing critique. Yay.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago

shut up shut up shut up

you're RUNNING FOR MAYOR shut the fuck up

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Reading his Wikipedia article and comparing it with other people like Corbyn and Maduro makes him look so bad in comparison. But I'm not taking about the obvious like comparing what they are now or what they have done because Mamdani obviously hasn't done much by virtue of not having a real political career. Even comparing their very early forays into politics make Mamdani look like a fraud.

Maduro:

  • Formed an illegal union and slowly climbed up the ranks within unions.
  • Went to Cuba where he was ideologically trained by Cuban communists.

Morales:

  • Started out being just some dude who's really interested in football, which was his foot into a coca grower union.
  • Slowly climbed the ranks of the union until he became general secretary of the union.

Corbyn:

  • Joined the Labour Party and various student activist groups at an early age.
  • Attended a May Day parade in Allende's Chile which radicalized him.

Mamdani:

  • Ran a bunch of fake elections (student president and so on)
  • Worked as a foreclosure prevention and housing counselor
  • Got involved in NYC politics

Overall, Mamdani's backstory paints him as some dude who just wants to be an elected politician and have always wanted to be an elected politician since he was little. He was never involved in any labor organizing or political activism. Given his backstory, it will isn't that surprising he would completely capitulate because none of his history thus far show him as someone who cares about anything but the trajectory of his own political career. He's just young enough that he doesn't have much of a political career yet, so there's less opportunity for him to go mask off in being a careerist.

Edit: I thought about it some more, and my impression of him is even worse now. Let's look at Sanders. Sanders started out as a participant of the civil rights movement. Mamdani is a millennial, and the millennial equivalent of civil rights activism is stuff like anti-Iraq war protests and BLM. But was he even a participant in those activism or any activism at all? Was he protesting against the Iraq war? Was he protesting against police brutality? Was he even involved in Occupy, the millennial movement that first started in the same exact city he's running for mayor?

Damn, I didn't care for him at all, and even I feel bamboozled after reading his Wikipedia article. Shoulda done the bare amount of investigation by reading a Wikipedia article and going off on him when a lot of his stans are still around lmao

[–] boboblaw@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Was he protesting against the Iraq war?

He would have been like 12 years old.

During Occupy, at least a teenager or maybe 18.

I agree with the rest. The "millennial" category just spans such a large range and I guess he's closer to the zoomer end.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Have you heard the story of a scorpion and dsa?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 2 days ago
[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago (45 children)

Lol, you all were shitting on me for calling this like 3 months ago.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (11 children)

he's running for mayor this doesn't actually matter, it's just punching himself in the balls for no reason.

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[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the tags for fell-for-it-again-award fell-for-it-again neon-fell-for-it-evangelion should be Mamdani.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's going to keep happening until the socdems are purged.

It was like a month ago that criticizing Mamdani would get you waves of angry socdems saying "but the right opposes him!"

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

but you would lose their valuable discourse like "we have to vooote" and "harm reduction" and "lesser evil" and "hiding power levels"

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And where did that bring you? How many times do I have to teach you this lesson? back-to-me

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[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

[–] wideopenarms@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nope you can't say that, it's not allowed, we're a left unity forum not a commy forum how are you gonna court the socdems talking like that please consider how you build a movement out of this, mods mods mods (context, I'm just complaining)

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is just one moderator's perspective (mine, if that isn't clear); take it as such:

Nowhere on the site do we officially advertise as a "Left-Unity" community, which I believe is a colloquialism used in an attempt to succinctly describe the site and its vibe, especially to people outside the site. That being, we don't discourage baby leftists from joining the site, and we don't explicitly advertise as either an Anarchist forum or a Marxist/Marxist-Leninist forum. We're going to inevitably have new users on the site where this is their first-time dealing with this kind of opertunism. People's understanding doesn't come with age, it comes with education, and I'll be real here and tell you it's comrades on this site that became the catalyst for me to read more theory, which has sharpened my understanding of electoralism in the context of revolutionary struggle.

My interpretation of the rule:

Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.

Is that it is intended as a rule for mediating the existing tensions between Anarchist and Marxist-Leninist tendencies. I can't speak for historical rulings on the matter, but that is my understanding and interpretation. So threads like this one, do not fall under that rule, in my opinion.

[–] theoryenjoyer@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Criticisms of socdems on here pushed me to read theory too and radicalized me further left while I was a socdem, so I personally appreciate that policy

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago

Because he believes it, because he's a piece of shit American. None of these people are hiding it.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 46 points 3 days ago

and Trump is acting just like those authoritarian dictators too!

liberalism

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can they just invent like ONE good American pls

This is getting a bit silly

[–] jack@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's lots, but as a rule you won't see them on the democratic ticket

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[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

🗲ohran Mamdani

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 days ago

Oh look mistrusting someone because they are „too good“ at left lib PR did pay off in the end.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fuck this social fascist piece of shit

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago
[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

color me so surprised

[–] heresiarch@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago

hahaha fuck this guy lmao

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

This basically confirms he's winning the election and then being the AOC stopgap to any further socialist reforms.

If random gusanos gets him to think this way who knows what the dems have done.

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