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[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Have you heard the story of a scorpion and dsa?

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

ofc

but people saying him not saying this wouldn't hurt his chances are wrong

Like lol he would definitely lose if he said the opposite (if he wasn't shot)

I was just watching a clip of jane goodall saying she would put "musk,trump ,putin ,president xi jinping and Netanyahu and his far right government on a spaceship and send them away forever"

it disgusts me that anyone would compare Putin to Netanyahu but I understand that in the eyes of dumb-ass westerners that putin is a dictator (not true) and that Russia invaded Ukraine

BUT saying Xi and then Saying Netenyahu and his far right government implies that a Chinese president is not ok but a "non far-right" israeli president is and it fucking pisses me off

here's the thing this person is not running for office ,she passed away just 6 days ago yet she still said this lib bs ,I am not stupid ,this shit is worse in the USA so yeah rant over

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

he didn't need to say the opposite, he just needed to say nothing at all.

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

yeah same stuff my man ,that would make people interpret him as weak ,electoralism is a dead end and if you want to run for office please run as part of a 3rd party

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The opposite is the case. When he dodged the question about visiting Israel it wasn't seen as weakness but as the zenith of his entire campaign.

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

that's cause Americans are sick of Isarel ,Ik I am not American but come on you know for a fact most Americans do think maduro and miguel are dictators (wrong but its what they believe)

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

most americans are sick of endless forever wars as well. All he has to do is re-frame it and say "I'm not in the business of policing other countries"

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

most americans are sick of endless forever wars as well

that's true but It doesn't change that most Americans and unfortunately not just Americans but most libs in the western world and the now non existent normies would absolutely get mad at you and label you authoritarian pro Russia and then and you of the entire internet for this bro

The thing with Russia is though american right wing nuts don't see it fully positively but they are sick of the Russiagate bs ,with Venezuela and Cuba both dems libs ,normie libs ,normie conservatives ,"normies" and right wing cranks all agree

my man you get shit for that in Brazil which is far less politically polluted than the USA (it is but yk what I mean) , you also get shit for it in other Latin American countries

the only places where you can say this without losing are South Africa and ? ,I am trying to think of a country but I can't ,the only other places where you wouldn't get shit for this don't have elections to begin with (Pro US dictatorships)

in fact the biggest tell on why I know I am not wrong is cause Jill Stein is a liberal from the green party and despite calling Assad and Putin war criminals they talk about her like she's the 2nd coming of Gamal Abd Al Nasser just because she has sensibe foreign policy positions

all in all

eloctoralism never works

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago

I agree Democrat Entryism definitely doesn't work. I'm just pointing out that in this case, Mamdani made an unforced error even by social chauvinist standards. He could have easily avoided this statement, but he chose not to. That's extra damning

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

Fuck. There's no pragmatic reason to fold on this, gusanos in NYC aren't going to tank his race. This is just naked ideology and opportunism.

I issue a formal apology to whomever it was I argued with some months ago in defense of Zohran. I didn't expect a ton from him but I expected better than this. I was wrong. I'm sorry I was wrong. I tried to go back in my comment history to find you and give you the gloating rights you deserve, but it crapped out after 10 pages of looking.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

🗲ohran Mamdani

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're running for LOCAL OFFICE. You don't need to field these questions. Cuba and Venezuela are not your concern.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At least with Israel they can say "NYC is largest population of US Jews, plus generally Americans are concerned about an ongoing genocide, so it is slightly relevant to the NYC mayoral position"

But the mayor of NYC needs no position on Venezuela, it's really easy to just say nothing instead of cosigning war crimes

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

but if you've got dogshit opinions please do air them so everyone knows who you really are

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who are these statements even for? The right will see it as a bold faced lie, people on the far left will hate these statements and see it as a betrayal of core values, and I guess people on the centre left get to use it as a token statement to try shut down right wing critique. Yay.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

im slowly turning into raul castro

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Reading his Wikipedia article and comparing it with other people like Corbyn and Maduro makes him look so bad in comparison. But I'm not taking about the obvious like comparing what they are now or what they have done because Mamdani obviously hasn't done much by virtue of not having a real political career. Even comparing their very early forays into politics make Mamdani look like a fraud.

Maduro:

  • Formed an illegal union and slowly climbed up the ranks within unions.
  • Went to Cuba where he was ideologically trained by Cuban communists.

Morales:

  • Started out being just some dude who's really interested in football, which was his foot into a coca grower union.
  • Slowly climbed the ranks of the union until he became general secretary of the union.

Corbyn:

  • Joined the Labour Party and various student activist groups at an early age.
  • Attended a May Day parade in Allende's Chile which radicalized him.

Mamdani:

  • Ran a bunch of fake elections (student president and so on)
  • Worked as a foreclosure prevention and housing counselor
  • Got involved in NYC politics

Overall, Mamdani's backstory paints him as some dude who just wants to be an elected politician and have always wanted to be an elected politician since he was little. He was never involved in any labor organizing or political activism. Given his backstory, it will isn't that surprising he would completely capitulate because none of his history thus far show him as someone who cares about anything but the trajectory of his own political career. He's just young enough that he doesn't have much of a political career yet, so there's less opportunity for him to go mask off in being a careerist.

Edit: I thought about it some more, and my impression of him is even worse now. Let's look at Sanders. Sanders started out as a participant of the civil rights movement. Mamdani is a millennial, and the millennial equivalent of civil rights activism is stuff like anti-Iraq war protests and BLM. But was he even a participant in those activism or any activism at all? Was he protesting against the Iraq war? Was he protesting against police brutality? Was he even involved in Occupy, the millennial movement that first started in the same exact city he's running for mayor?

Damn, I didn't care for him at all, and even I feel bamboozled after reading his Wikipedia article. Shoulda done the bare amount of investigation by reading a Wikipedia article and going off on him when a lot of his stans are still around lmao

[–] boboblaw@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Was he protesting against the Iraq war?

He would have been like 12 years old.

During Occupy, at least a teenager or maybe 18.

I agree with the rest. The "millennial" category just spans such a large range and I guess he's closer to the zoomer end.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 7 points 23 hours ago

Next year when I'm eating affordable Halal while in the sewers taking pot shots at the invading South Carolinian Nation Guard I'm going to remember this.

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago

shut up shut up shut up

you're RUNNING FOR MAYOR shut the fuck up

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of the tags for fell-for-it-again-award fell-for-it-again neon-fell-for-it-evangelion should be Mamdani.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to keep happening until the socdems are purged.

It was like a month ago that criticizing Mamdani would get you waves of angry socdems saying "but the right opposes him!"

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 9 points 21 hours ago

but you would lose their valuable discourse like "we have to vooote" and "harm reduction" and "lesser evil" and "hiding power levels"

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 day ago

Oh look mistrusting someone because they are „too good“ at left lib PR did pay off in the end.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

color me so surprised

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