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Have you heard the story of a scorpion and dsa?
ofc
but people saying him not saying this wouldn't hurt his chances are wrong
Like lol he would definitely lose if he said the opposite (if he wasn't shot)
I was just watching a clip of jane goodall saying she would put "musk,trump ,putin ,president xi jinping and Netanyahu and his far right government on a spaceship and send them away forever"
it disgusts me that anyone would compare Putin to Netanyahu but I understand that in the eyes of dumb-ass westerners that putin is a dictator (not true) and that Russia invaded Ukraine
BUT saying Xi and then Saying Netenyahu and his far right government implies that a Chinese president is not ok but a "non far-right" israeli president is and it fucking pisses me off
here's the thing this person is not running for office ,she passed away just 6 days ago yet she still said this lib bs ,I am not stupid ,this shit is worse in the USA so yeah rant over
he didn't need to say the opposite, he just needed to say nothing at all.
yeah same stuff my man ,that would make people interpret him as weak ,electoralism is a dead end and if you want to run for office please run as part of a 3rd party
The opposite is the case. When he dodged the question about visiting Israel it wasn't seen as weakness but as the zenith of his entire campaign.
that's cause Americans are sick of Isarel ,Ik I am not American but come on you know for a fact most Americans do think maduro and miguel are dictators (wrong but its what they believe)
most americans are sick of endless forever wars as well. All he has to do is re-frame it and say "I'm not in the business of policing other countries"
most americans are sick of endless forever wars as well
that's true but It doesn't change that most Americans and unfortunately not just Americans but most libs in the western world and the now non existent normies would absolutely get mad at you and label you authoritarian pro Russia and then and you of the entire internet for this bro
The thing with Russia is though american right wing nuts don't see it fully positively but they are sick of the Russiagate bs ,with Venezuela and Cuba both dems libs ,normie libs ,normie conservatives ,"normies" and right wing cranks all agree
my man you get shit for that in Brazil which is far less politically polluted than the USA (it is but yk what I mean) , you also get shit for it in other Latin American countries
the only places where you can say this without losing are South Africa and ? ,I am trying to think of a country but I can't ,the only other places where you wouldn't get shit for this don't have elections to begin with (Pro US dictatorships)
in fact the biggest tell on why I know I am not wrong is cause Jill Stein is a liberal from the green party and despite calling Assad and Putin war criminals they talk about her like she's the 2nd coming of Gamal Abd Al Nasser just because she has sensibe foreign policy positions
all in all
eloctoralism never works
I agree Democrat Entryism definitely doesn't work. I'm just pointing out that in this case, Mamdani made an unforced error even by social chauvinist standards. He could have easily avoided this statement, but he chose not to. That's extra damning
Fuck. There's no pragmatic reason to fold on this, gusanos in NYC aren't going to tank his race. This is just naked ideology and opportunism.
I issue a formal apology to whomever it was I argued with some months ago in defense of Zohran. I didn't expect a ton from him but I expected better than this. I was wrong. I'm sorry I was wrong. I tried to go back in my comment history to find you and give you the gloating rights you deserve, but it crapped out after 10 pages of looking.
🗲ohran Mamdani
You're running for LOCAL OFFICE. You don't need to field these questions. Cuba and Venezuela are not your concern.
At least with Israel they can say "NYC is largest population of US Jews, plus generally Americans are concerned about an ongoing genocide, so it is slightly relevant to the NYC mayoral position"
But the mayor of NYC needs no position on Venezuela, it's really easy to just say nothing instead of cosigning war crimes
but if you've got dogshit opinions please do air them so everyone knows who you really are
Who are these statements even for? The right will see it as a bold faced lie, people on the far left will hate these statements and see it as a betrayal of core values, and I guess people on the centre left get to use it as a token statement to try shut down right wing critique. Yay.
Reading his Wikipedia article and comparing it with other people like Corbyn and Maduro makes him look so bad in comparison. But I'm not taking about the obvious like comparing what they are now or what they have done because Mamdani obviously hasn't done much by virtue of not having a real political career. Even comparing their very early forays into politics make Mamdani look like a fraud.
Maduro:
- Formed an illegal union and slowly climbed up the ranks within unions.
- Went to Cuba where he was ideologically trained by Cuban communists.
Morales:
- Started out being just some dude who's really interested in football, which was his foot into a coca grower union.
- Slowly climbed the ranks of the union until he became general secretary of the union.
Corbyn:
- Joined the Labour Party and various student activist groups at an early age.
- Attended a May Day parade in Allende's Chile which radicalized him.
Mamdani:
- Ran a bunch of fake elections (student president and so on)
- Worked as a foreclosure prevention and housing counselor
- Got involved in NYC politics
Overall, Mamdani's backstory paints him as some dude who just wants to be an elected politician and have always wanted to be an elected politician since he was little. He was never involved in any labor organizing or political activism. Given his backstory, it will isn't that surprising he would completely capitulate because none of his history thus far show him as someone who cares about anything but the trajectory of his own political career. He's just young enough that he doesn't have much of a political career yet, so there's less opportunity for him to go mask off in being a careerist.
Edit: I thought about it some more, and my impression of him is even worse now. Let's look at Sanders. Sanders started out as a participant of the civil rights movement. Mamdani is a millennial, and the millennial equivalent of civil rights activism is stuff like anti-Iraq war protests and BLM. But was he even a participant in those activism or any activism at all? Was he protesting against the Iraq war? Was he protesting against police brutality? Was he even involved in Occupy, the millennial movement that first started in the same exact city he's running for mayor?
Damn, I didn't care for him at all, and even I feel bamboozled after reading his Wikipedia article. Shoulda done the bare amount of investigation by reading a Wikipedia article and going off on him when a lot of his stans are still around lmao
Was he protesting against the Iraq war?
He would have been like 12 years old.
During Occupy, at least a teenager or maybe 18.
I agree with the rest. The "millennial" category just spans such a large range and I guess he's closer to the zoomer end.
Next year when I'm eating affordable Halal while in the sewers taking pot shots at the invading South Carolinian Nation Guard I'm going to remember this.
shut up shut up shut up
you're RUNNING FOR MAYOR shut the fuck up
One of the tags for
should be Mamdani.
It's going to keep happening until the socdems are purged.
It was like a month ago that criticizing Mamdani would get you waves of angry socdems saying "but the right opposes him!"
but you would lose their valuable discourse like "we have to vooote" and "harm reduction" and "lesser evil" and "hiding power levels"
Oh look mistrusting someone because they are „too good“ at left lib PR did pay off in the end.
color me so surprised