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China updates its visa system for the first time in around a decade with the introduction of a new visa for STEM workers called the K Visa (english.www.gov.cn)
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Get ready to learn Chinese, computer touchers. In all seriousness, this is a very interesting development as China starts looking at leveraging brain drain against the West. What's really interesting is that K visas don't need a sponsoring company, you can get the visa, move, then get a job.

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

This is causing a lot of overreaction on the Chinese internet right now since the past 48 hours lol.

Do people want details? Lots of racism and xenophobia though, especially from the nationalists who have been laughing about “Western countries being destroyed by mass immigration, Canada being invaded by Indians” etc. now crying the loudest about the new policy. No, your provincial town is Sichuan isn’t going to be flooded by “inferior” foreigners lol.

There are some legit criticisms though, for example, people complain about how even Chinese people with Masters and PhD degrees have trouble finding employment, so how are foreigners with Bachelors degree going to help? They are worried about the labor market becoming even more competitive.

The funniest part is that I don’t even expect many foreigners to apply because the language barrier is significant (like, no Chinese company is going to hire someone who cannot even speak semi-proficient Chinese because the managers themselves can’t communicate in English), but the wild overreaction on Chinese social media before anything has even happened is amusing to watch at least. Have to say I am kinda disappointed by my own people.

Anyway, so far what we know is: no language requirement, no employment required, 0.5-5 years stay, only require a Bachelors degree for qualification. So, here’s your chance to live in China, Hexbears!

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Shithead racists are always going to be the loudest in any country I suppose. Silly of them to freak out, even if every single person in Canada emigrated to China, it would only raise the population by around 3%, hardly the apocalyptic scenario these guys envision.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's bizarre to even make arguments of inferiority or superiority based on racist shit when you name a segment of your own history the "century of humiliation", was that because of racial inferiority too? Of course fucking not.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The “inferior” part refers to darker skinned people, especially the fear of Indians and Africans with “fake university qualifications” “flooding the country”, and they point to what happened in Western countries. Many would still accept white people coming into their country (though this is also starting to receive some backlash as Chinese people become more confident about their own country).

Unfortunate to see such blatant racism being displayed out in the open. I always thought we’re better than that, but maybe that’s because China has always kept a tight immigration policy so people never get the anxiety about that. I am still surprised by the overreaction though.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

what happened in Western countries

Made up bullshit then.

They're going to have to address this. It's going to fester.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

We need a cultural revolution 2.0

[–] LargeAdultRedBook@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I have seen a significant number of people on Chinese social media who basically believe the Fox News portrayal of the west, but are instead excited by the implication that it is destroying the west.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

when you name a segment of your own history the "century of humiliation", was that because of racial inferiority too? Of course fucking not.

The crazy Han Chauvinist crowd in Chinese internet would blame the Manchu

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It just crops up in the last 48 hours all over the social media. Lots of fearmongering going on right now before the policy is even implemented (which is tomorrow, October 1st).

The only fair point I will make is that this K visa policy itself also came out of nowhere, seemingly following the US restricting their H1B visa issuance (actual announcement was back in August, though most people didn’t notice or even pay attention). There isn’t a lot of details about the why and the need for the policies and how exactly it will be implemented. So people immediately think the worst, that the Indians who want to seek better life in the US will now take advantage of China’s wealth.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

There are some legit criticisms though, for example, people complain about how even Chinese people with Masters and PhD degrees have trouble finding employment, so how are foreigners with Bachelors degree going to help? They are worried about the labor market becoming even more competitive.

Goes to show how important full employment policies are.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

I can't imagine young people are happy about this, youth unemployment in STEM fields in China seems pretty bad to me, and I doubt this will make it better.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

only require a Bachelors degree for qualification.

Any bachelor's or STEM specifically

[–] cream_provider@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Me over here with my Arts degree: can I come too please?

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

I think it has to be from a "recognized university" as well, although it's unclear if that means HPYSM, T20, T50 or just accreditation

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The linked article is from August 14th. Was there some new announcement about this visa?

edit: Oh I see, it is launching October 1st

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

also, be white

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Also, isn't your tech work culture even worse over there than ours (in terms of long hours worked)

Frankly, I was putting in 50-60 hours/week at my last gig and I could definitely handle more tbh

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know if there is an age requirement? The announcement seems to imply one.

What about spouse/family?

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

18-45, STEM degree, unclear about spouse/family.

Check the Chinese embassy of your country (the details should be released around October 1st, which is now).

[–] jack@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

This is really interesting. China could solve a lot of problems with some modest increases in immigration if this becomes the start of bigger shifts.

[–] VibeCoder@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Finally I have a reason to go back for my Bachelor’s. Legit, though, I don’t think I could handle a 996 job. I’m too much of a lazy burgerlander.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like no details on requirements yet?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

IIRC you need a bachelor's

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't see this as a replacement for the STEM-lords on H-1B's since I think China will be more stringent on who they let in (high qualifications, higher education level etc.). H-1B's are more for flooding the market with tech workers in the US to keep wages down and keep middle class labor exploitable. But that is just my speculation.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think it is any more stringent. You don't need a company to sponsor you, the education requirements are the same, there isn't a requirement to find a capable Chinese person, and there isn't a language requirement. The biggest difference is how many will be available.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Doing a masters in phytoremediation, amazing work coming out of south China normal university focused on cleaning up their industrial areas and the three gorges damn.

I wonder if I should take night classes in Mandarin. I reckon the climate would agree with me....

Unfortunately there's no way my wife would get her security clearance back for her job if we went to China in this climate...

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe I should go back to school for that degree I've been putting off

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Literally includes me. But I guess china has enough hackers haha

The issue may be that highly skilled chinese workers struggle to find employment, so how foreign workers will improve that, is beyond me.

[–] kotak_doost@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck, I'm a STEM piece and shit, maybe I should move

[–] rubber_chicken@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Future comment-stalkers: the context is a new visa to China for "young science, technology professionals" and there is nothing libertarian-approaching going on here, but feel free to verify.

Is there a cutoff for "young?"

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Oh damn, this headline was originally China has made it easier to get a visa, but at what cost? but when i went to get a screenshot they'd updated it, anyway essentially:

we found some racist comments on weibo, here's what they had to say

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-02/china-k-visa-draws-fierce-criticism/105840312