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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Last week on, "Please do not build the torment nexus"

No, it never works out in the movies, I mean somehow these poor delusional humans convince themselves that they can control the kill bots...

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 50 minutes ago

Because the Terminator franchise is from Hollywood, the heroic resisters to SkyNet are Americans. Someone didn't watch the movies very well.

OFC the OG Terminator was a scary foreign man with a pronounced accent...

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago

Good to know that she still has space on her war crime scorecard

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 10 hours ago

what fresh hell is this

Cloudflare Introduces NET Dollar stable coin (HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45471573)

[–] rook@awful.systems 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

I know it’s terrible being a drama gossip, but there are some Fun Times on bluesky at the moment. I’m sure most of you know the origins of the project, and the political leanings of the founders, but they’re currently getting publicly riled up about trans folk and palestinians and tying themselves up in knots defending their decision to change the rules to keep jesse singal on site, and penniless victims of the idf off it.

They really cannot cope with the fact that their user base aren’t politically aligned with them, and are desperate to appease the fash (witness the crackdowns on people’s reaction to charlie kirk’s overdue departure from this vale of tears) and have currently reached the Posting Through It stage. I’m assuming at some point their self-image as Reasonable Centrists will crack and one or more of them will start throwing around transphobic slurs and/or sieg-heiling and bewailing how the awful leftists made them do it. Anyone want to hazard a guess at a timeline?

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well, they're already using "waffles" as a transphobic slur (irony poisoning speedrun any%), so it's really more of a question of which transphobic slurs they'll escalate to next.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And all this because she simply could not shut up. Which seems to be one of the oldest, modding a large community rules.

[–] rook@awful.systems 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody ever seems to learn the “never get high from your own supply” lesson. Gotta get that hit of thousands of people instantly supporting and agreeing with whatever dumbfuck thought just fell out.

You absolutely don’t have to hand it to zuckerberg, but he at least is well aware that he runs an unethical ad company that’s bad for the world, has always expressed his total contempt for his users, and has not posted through it.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

whenever there's a huge scandal he listens to his PR people, keeps his mouth shut, then goes on a media tour where he lies his ass off in exactly the same way at each stop. it's that simple and yet almost no other tech people can do it

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago

You absolutely don’t have to hand it to zuckerberg, but he at least is well aware that he runs an unethical ad company that’s bad for the world, has always expressed his total contempt for his users, and has not posted through it.

Its an extremely low bar to clear, but I'll begrudgingly hand it to him for being one of the few tech CEOs who didn't actively limbo under it.

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

here’s a good summary of the situation including an analysis of the brand new dogwhistle a bunch of bluesky posters are throwing around in support of Jay and Singal and layers of other nasty shit

here’s Jay Graber, CEO of Bluesky, getting called out by lowtax’s ex-wife:

here’s Jay posting about mangosteen (mangosteen juice was a weird MLM lowtax tried to market on the Something Awful forums as he started to spiral)

Anyone want to hazard a guess at a timeline?

since Jay posted AI generated art about dec/acc and put the term in her profile, her little “ironic” nod to e/acc and to AI, my guess is this is coming very soon

[–] istewart@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This doesn't include her blurb about, "are you paying us? where???"

But weren't there a multitude of people clamoring for a Bluesky subscription service from the get-go? Out of recognition that this situation was one of the potential failure modes?

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The question on getting paid might give credence to the rumors that they’re running out of money and won’t make it (user-growth wise) as an ad platform. Which, lol and also lmao.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 1 points 10 minutes ago

Yeah, I can't see that they're doing anything besides burning runway. It's probably shortly going to become cliche to say, "glad I never made an account there," but, welp, glad I never made an account there

[–] rook@awful.systems 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, didn’t know about the guy behind tangled.org (Anirudh Oppiliappan) being a waffle enthusiast too 🫤 Just visited his bsky profile, and he’s enthusing about a “decentralised accelerationism” post by jay.

I hadn’t really seen the point of the tangled project (I’m not sure what atproto brings to version control) but I was interested in an ecosystem around the jujutsu vcs stuff. I guess I won’t find that here.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

ok plz explain what "waffles" means in this context

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

TL;DR: It’s all a meme-poisoned bluesky circle-jerk involving transphobes and people who desperately want transphobes to think they’re cool.

The link from self to mcc’s bluesky thread sums up this stuff with references, but to attempt to summarise the summary, there’s a tweet from the depths of time (2017) that says

Twitter the only place where well articulated sentences still get misinterpreted. You can say "I like pancakes" and somebody will say "So you hate waffles?"

Bluesky ceo jay graber uses “waffles” as shorthand referencing this post, and whipped it out when asked about bluesky’s ongoing unwillingness to do anything about noted transphobe jesse singal, who has since posted about how much he loves waffles.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago

jfc

Thanks for taking the time to expand

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 22 hours ago

While most bullish outlooks are premised on economic reacceleration, it’s difficult to ignore the market’s reliance on AI capex. In market-pricing terms, we believe we’re closer to the seventh inning than the first, and several developments indicate we may be entering the later phases of the boom. First, AI hyperscaler free-cash-flow growth has turned negative. Second, price competition in the "monopoly-feeder businesses” seems to be accelerating. Finally, recent deal-making smacks of speculation and vendor-financing strategies of old.

https://www.morganstanley.com/pub/content/dam/mscampaign/wealth-management/wmir-assets/gic-weekly.pdf

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago

"You know, I never defrauded anyone,” says Sam Bankman-Fried

“You know, I never sent the boys across the Isonzo without believing we could win,” said Luigi Cadorna

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 22 hours ago

I predict Sam will lose big on the S&C claims. They have made fuckin bank on this bankruptcy, but also their fees have already been ruled entirely reasonable given the shitshow in question, and the near complete recovery for creditors will make them look even better.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Guys according to LW you’re reading Omelas all wrong (just like LeGuin was wrong)

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/n83HssLfFicx3JnKT/omelas-is-perfectly-misread

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago) (1 children)

Funny to type all that up and also go 'Le Guin Disagrees'

(not that having a different read than the author intended is strange, I mean I have a dystopian reading of Starship troopers which I think makes much more sense than what was intended).

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 18 minutes ago

I think I read Starship Troopers before I saw the movie, because a small scene reveals that Johnny Rico is of Phillipine descent (his mother tongue is Tagalog) and I remember wondering if that would be part of the movie. Samuel R Delany mentions that scene as something that made him felt included in SF.

I was very young when I read it but even then I could read it as proto-fascist (or rather military-authoritarian, a bit like cod-Roman Republic)

[–] corbin@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Choice sneer from the comments:

Omelas: how we talk about utopia [by Big Joel, a patient and straightforward Youtube humanist,] [has a] pretty much identical thesis, does this count?

Another solid one which aligns with my local knowledge:

It's also about literal child molesters living in Salem Oregon.

The story is meant to be given to high schoolers to challenge their ethics, and in that sense we should read it with the following meta-narrative: imagine that one is a high schooler in Omelas and is learning about The Plight and The Child for the first time, and then realize that one is a high schooler in Salem learning about local history. It's not intended for libertarian gotchas because it wasn't written in a philosophical style; it's a narrative that conveys a mood and an ethical framing.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 21 hours ago

One of the many annoying traits of rationalists is their tendency to backproject classic pieces of literature onto their chosen worldview.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So bit of a counter to our usual stuff thing. But a worker migrant here won a case against his employer who had linked his living space to his employment contract (forbidden) using chatgpt as an aid (how much is not told). So there actually was a case where it helped.

Interesting note on it, these sorts of cases have no jurisprudence yet, so that might have been a factor. No good links for it sadly as it was all in Dutch. (Cant even find a proper writeup in a bigger news site as a foreigner defending their rights against abuse is less interesting than some other country having a new bisshop). Skeets congratulating the guy here https://bsky.app/profile/isgoedhoor.bsky.social/post/3m27aqkyjjk2c (in Dutch). Nothing much about the genAI usage.

But this does fit a pattern, how, like with blind/bad eyesight people, these tools are veing used by people who have no other recourse because we refuse to help them (this is bad tbh, Im happy they are getting more help don't fet me wrong, but it shouldn't be this substandard).

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LLMs are the Dippin Dots of technology.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's an unfair comparison, Dippin Dots don't slowly ruin the world by existing (also, they're delicious)

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It will always be the ice cream of the future, never the ice cream of today

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

The Guardian shat out its latest piece of AI hype, violating Betteridge's Law of headlines by asking "Parents are letting little kids play with AI. Are they wrong?"

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