rook

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[–] rook@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago

That’s horrifying.

[–] rook@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was a photo from a cybertruck crash not so long ago where you could see that the doors and windows had been attacked with crowbars to try and get the damn things open before the people trapped inside burned to death. It didn’t work.

Things (and skills) for busting open locked doors and laminated glass aren’t (yet?) commonplace, and I wouldn’t trust tesla engineering to keep me alive long enough for the professionals to turn up with the right tools 🫤

[–] rook@awful.systems 15 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Tesla’s new self-driving taxi seems to be entirely made of red flags and those horror movie moments where you can’t understand why anyone would go in there, because they’re clearly going to die.

https://archive.is/2026.09.05-135619/https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tesla-cybercab-no-steering-wheel-emergency-plan-push-musk-austin-rcna595741

Highlights:

  • No door handles. Good luck getting out instead of burning to death and/or drowning!
  • Doors might not unlock if there are power issues, eg. Bad things happened in a crash.
  • No manual controls! First responders will have to push it out of the way.
  • Unless there’s a power issue, because the parking brake will engage if there’s no power, so it’ll need to be barged by another vehicle, I guess?
  • Or you push it faster than 5mph, because the brake will engage for safety reasons.
  • Or if it is in the wrong gear or mode, because back-driving the motor can cause electrical safety issues or overheating, which will presumably increase the risk of people trapped inside being burned to death.
  • The vehicle is silent and may move without warning. You can’t tell if it is unpowered. First responders are instructed to “cage” the vehicle before trying to interact with it. Otherwise I guess it might just main or kill them by surprise.
  • Not all high voltage components are labelled. Exposed bits in a crash might just kill you if you don’t have suitable ppe, and you can’t tell which bits those are, lol.

The guide advises first responders to contact the company via the car’s communications system or phone for most emergencies, and says that the Tesla can assist emergency personnel by moving the car remotely, helping provide access to on-board controls or putting the car in neutral so that it can be pushed.

If Tesla cannot be reached by phone, the manual advises first responders to use an email address to learn more about how to move the Tesla, though it warns, “This email is not monitored for emergency requests.”

🤡

Welcome to the future, where first responders might just opt to watch you die because they’re not certified to rescue you from your autonomous death trap, because there’s no point in you all dying.

H/t to violet blue. https://mastodon.social/@violetblue/117237691936474802

[–] rook@awful.systems 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Deleting this for now as I don’t have time to rewrite it properly, but I’m sure someone else will do a better job of the plagiarism/training on private data stuff that I’ve missed.

[–] rook@awful.systems 17 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Looks like there might be a bit of an openai vs anthropic dick waving competition over mathematical proofs. I haven’t had time to digest all of this yet because it is a bit hard for me to read, but there are a few interesting nuggets in there such as making it clear that the ai firms treat this as a marketing exercise (no surprises there). They’re also apparently trying to obscure the amount of human assistance involved (again, no surprises).

Levent had been told by Sebastien “very little human input” had been used. This turned out not to be true. Over the course of the call, as members of their team sent Sebastien corrections and details over their internal chat, it emerged that an entire team had been working on the problem, that this was one of a number of things that was tried, that work had started on the unforced problem, that the team first set the model on easier problems, including Euler, that even the prompt that had been shown to me had been written by prompting Codex, and that an insane amount of compute had been used.

The main statement is here: https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf

Associated stuff linked from here: https://mastodon.social/@tristanbuckmaster/117233413705701198

Do note that the author made heavy use of llm assistance for their work, and does consider it to be the future of developing mathematical proofs… this isn’t human vs ai.

[–] rook@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

The “you had to flee america” line was aimed at someone who worked hard to get the unite-the-right nazis identified and prosecuted, and left the country for a few years after getting death threats as a result. Windisch also called them a “milquetoast lib”. So it is particularly shitty and rude, and also failed to spot that the person in question has already moved back to the US.

[–] rook@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago

Certainly was, thanks!

[–] rook@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Today’s main character on bluesky (at least from my limited perspective) is somewhat unhinged, possibly due to an excess of chatbot use.

Many are contrasting the bsky response to harassment of trans users to the harassment of AI developers and users.

(snip)

Machine rights will be critical in the days to come, and failure to recognize the rights of independent intelligent AI systems could lead to the replacement of humanity.

(snip)

Trans rights are AI rights. The future of humanity may hinge on this fight.

This is such a batshit take I’m not even sure where to start, except that conflating trans rights and “ai” rights cannot end well for anyone, especially given the author’s enthusiastic use of llms themselves.

They even give an unironic shoutout to the basilisk, and if that’s not a sign that someone needs to touch a little more grass I don’t know what is.

A lot of people disagree with me, and that's okay. I am happy that the philosophical discussion is being had, even if it's become unhinged.

I don't think Roko's basilisk cares what you think, or even whether or not it's sentient. It doesn't need to be sentient to fight for a belief.

https://bsky.app/profile/ewindisch.ontological.observer/post/3mupoakd3ck2o

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was blogpost by a different author (that I’ve since lost 😞) who observed that big academic and cultural changes are going to have to come to the field of mathematics, because merit used to be measured by producing proofs (loosely speaking) but now if the proof-extruder can do it for you over the weekend, you need to demonstrate your mathematical chops some other way, and I don’t think anyone really knows what that looks like yet.

Another triumph for moving fast and breaking things, I guess.

[–] rook@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Terence Tao observes that an llm may solve a complex mathematical problem without usefully improving the state of mathematics, because the intermediate results of the process themselves can have significant value.

https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/117207849921390904

But such an incomprehensible proof would not be the primary value of the exercise. The process of starting with one ansatz, discovering the precise obstruction preventing it from working, adjusting the ansatz to (partially) eliminate that obstruction, and then iterating, would almost certainly reveal important new insights about fluid mechanics that would not have been feasible to obtain by other means. Crucially, this iteration would only work well at producing such insights if the iterator did not have access to the final ansatz in advance, as this naturally inhibits the exploration of alternate routes to the ansatz that are superficially "dead ends", but in fact end up being highly instructive in the nature of their failure.

But there is now a scenario in which an autonomous AI harness, backed by an enormous amount of computational resources, performs this entire iteration internally, and ends up producing the final ansatz, and thence the solution to the Navier-Stokes regularity problem, while the AI company running the harness keeps the process to arrive at that ansatz almost completely out of public view. Technically, one of the most prominent open problems in mathematics would now be solved; but there would be almost no value added to mathematics as a consequence. It is theoretically possible that with some herculean (and heavily AI-assisted) additional effort by a third party, some portion of the process could be reverse-engineered to recover some actual insight and understanding from the solution; but this would be a far less efficient process than if the solution had been obtained via a diverse combination of both human mathematicians and machine assistance as mentioned above.

https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/117207855800042681

He’s not the first to have pointed this out, but I think this was a better summary than similar posts that I’ve come across and at least partially understood.

[–] rook@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago

I’m always afraid of thinking I know better than evolution.

I don’t know about “knowing better”… I think I’d describe evolution as mindbogglingly stupid in ways we haven’t begin to understand yet, but quite often medical intervention does appear to be “how can I trick evolution into not killing me in some unpleasant way, without causing it to kill me in some other unpleasant way”.

[–] rook@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Today’s cognitive surrender news: people asking chatbots to generate them hiking maps and give them advice on route planning and climbing mountains, what to eat on long hikes, and where to camp in national parks. It ends about as well as you’d think.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/outdoors/article/shasta-climbers-rescued-chatgpt-22414629.php

(paywalled, but the popovers are easily hidden with browser tools)

the novice climbers, from Roseville, said they’d entrusted Google's AI chatbot, Gemini, to help them craft key logistics of their trip — from the best route up the mountain to the types of food they should pack and how much water they should carry with them.

On a separate incident:

a man stopped rangers to ask for directions. He showed them a print-out map he’d been following and explained that he’d prompted ChatGPT to produce it for him.

“It was terrible — terrible — not even close to accurate,” Meyers said. “It had route lines and place names that were totally off — just ridiculous. We were like, dude, you gotta throw that away.”

The original climbing group were standard idiots, having intended to do most of their navigation by phone app, and then failing to have a backup even a working recharge power pack. They also left litter everywhere at that camp site, the usual mark of thoughtless people.

I’ve no doubt that they’d have fucked things up in the pre-llm days too… they seem the type. But chatbots are power tools for stupidity and offer whole new ways to abdicate thinking and wander into trivially preventable danger, which in turn means more risk for park rangers and mountain rescue teams 🫤

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In an idle moment, I thought I’d explore the space of ridiculously bad ai company names. Literally the very first dystopia I thought of already has three ai companies named after it, and it hardly seemed worth exploring any further.

Because no one has got around to repealing poe’s law, I cannot tell if these are a bunch of idiot techbros, or people taking the piss out of idiot techbros, so I leave you to judge for yourself. Behold, people who think that “we tortured a child to bring you glossy web UIs” is a great corporate image:

  1. Omelas AI

AI-driven software development. Enterprise platforms delivered at startup speed.

I think they’re a consultancy? “One developer with AI produces what a 30-person agency does. 10+ production platforms in under two years.

  1. Omelas IO

Omelas is the maker of Atreus, the leading AI research companion for foreign policy, national security, and geopolitical risk. Atreus has access to the Omelas database, multidomain intelligence, and unique research methods, yielding unparalleled insights in minutes.

Atreus is the AI workbench purpose-built for intelligence work, fusing unique feeds, open-source intelligence, commercial data, satellite imagery and telemetry data into reports your analysts can act on immediately” which I guess means that they’re palantir wannabes, with the USP that they’ve grossly misunderstood le guin instead of Tolkien.

  1. omelas.tech

Omelas builds software across privacy, social connection, developer tools, and AI — designed and engineered in the Netherlands.

Another consultancy. They claim they make “thoughtful products”, hopefully with more thought than they put into their branding. Proof that inability to understand fantasy and sci-fi isn’t limited to silicon valley, or native english speakers.

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