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At least 300 students have been prohibited from registering for classes at Northwestern University because they refused to watch a controversial antisemitism training video that they said was biased in favor of Israel, contained factual inaccuracies and could inflame campus tension over Gaza.

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[–] F_State@midwest.social 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good for them. Learning to defy the powers that be when they try to normalize immoral/unethical beliefs is a mark of becoming a responsible adult; something lacking in University Administrations apparently.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Idk. Look, fuck Israel, and I'm proud of these kids for standing up and saying no. But I also have to be true to my life experiences. Either northwestern caves, and I fucking hope they do (please email ug-admission@northwestern.edu, call 847-491-7271, anything to actively pressure them), or these kids are in for a world of shit. Non-college-educated jobs are fucking dystopian. I went to school in my early 30s, and even if I can argue for better working conditions for ALL workers, Jesus Christ my jobs before going back were in retrospect fucking insanely cruel and demeaning. And I promise you, one day protesting this genocide will be like remote work: Allowed and celebrated in white collar jobs, while a fucking joke elsewhere. I get that we all should be willing to give anything to stand up for what's right. It just always breaks my heart when that cost is borne by kids.

[–] bomibantai@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean just pragmatically speaking just "watch" the video like every other corporate mandated bs training video (2x on mute in a separate tab) no one is asking these kids to fundraise for Raytheon/thiel/the antichrist

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Idk. I'd never tell someone not to stand for good things. I guess my biggest gripe is that we lionize people who do what they should and yet have no support systems for people who pay the price for doing so, and the people doing the right thing are the people with the most future to lose.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I’m sure they can fall back on their masters and bachelors degrees but yeah agreed.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s personally known to me that the former President of Northwestern is in bed with student loan originators and he would also accept bribes from rich families to enroll students. It’s a sinister place.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uh, Sir or Madam. That's everywhere in America.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But this is the only one that’s personally known to me.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Weirdly enough, Transylvania University has had some of those scandals. It's weird because that particular university doesn't need any extra money. It's tiny, and old. I worked in the admin office my freshman year, and as far as I can tell, they have enough grants and endowments that every single student could go there for "free." The part that makes it doubly weird to me is that the administration middle managers confirmed that if they don't give a student the endowment amounts or grant amounts for that year, they don't get the money. It gets rolled back into the endowment.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Illinois, in case you were wondering.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You'd think northwestern would be in the northwest, but no. Shows the calibre of education they provide.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know this is sarcastic, and I love it and I'm sorry the pedantic part of my brain must inform someone that when the school was founded, Illinois was the Northwest part of the United States.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
  • 1803 Louisiana Purchase
  • 1809 Illinois Territory
  • 1819 49th parallel agreement
  • 1846 Oregon Treaty
  • 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
  • 1848 Oregon Territory
  • 1851 Northwestern university founding

The full extent of the contiguous united states was established before the founding of northwestern university. Illinois territory wasn't organized until after the louisiana purchase.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

IIRC, it was sorta the NW for states admitted to the Union in 1851.

I didn't name it, I just also wondered this and Googled it in like 2010.

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Northwestern metal gate banner reminds me too much of Arbeit macht frei.
Auschwitz extermination camp gate banner reads 'arbeit macht frei'

These elite university administrations need to do some soul-searching & reassess why they exist when they cave to Glorious Leader without a fight while even soulless corporations like Disney will defy him.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's possible the gate at NW predates the gate at Aushwitz(?) by several decades. That style was popular among colleges and universities all over the US during the latter part of the 1800s. Transylvania University, where I went, had a similar gate, though I don't remember what it was the entrance to, maybe the baseball complex?

Never made the connection to that other gate till just now.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s possible the gate at NW predates the gate at Aushwitz(?) by several decades.

It looks innocent & that wouldn't surprise me: my mind just freely associated without actual significance something to ridicule.

[–] Affidavit@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I hate universities that do this patronising nonsense (which is probably most of them tbh).

Things like this should be taught at school and assumed knowledge at uni. University is (generally) for adults.

Having adults teaching other adults 'how to respect other cultures', 'how not to rape someone', 'how to work in a group', 'how to be ethical', is condescending af.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

how not to rape someone’ […] is condescending af

On college campuses 13% of all students experience rape or sexual assault, with rates even higher for undergraduate women (26.4%) and students with nonconforming social identities (21%).

Colleges do that to cover their ass. There is a ton of sexual violence that happens on college campuses, especially fraternities. Clearly some adults do need to be taught not to rape others.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's not a university's job

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Except it legally is.

Universities are obliged to keep their students safe. It’s not even a just doing it for compliance thing, it also looks really fucking bad for a university if people are getting raped there. They want students to feel safe, high profile sexual assaults tend discourage from students applying to go there, or even more importantly, donors.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Yet, look at the US and the divide in thinking. Look at the rise of toxic masculinity and incels. Then you can also look at what schools in much of rural America are doing to promote PragerU or even fighting critical literacy and DEI.

These people are all going to universities with some very fucked up beliefs. Sadly, universities need to cover this shit because people still don’t understand lines.

Regarding this particular training? Yeah, not needed. Israel is a state and Jewish people are worldwide so criticizing Israel’s bullshit is not anti-semitism by any means. Morals seem to be difficult for many despite religions claiming they not only understand them, but exemplify them while doing the opposite in reality.

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