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[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Real piss heavy news day tf

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

big day in piss

[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

When it rains…. It’s piss!

[–] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

normally I have to visit pissnews.com to get this much news about piss

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Disgusting. Well deserved fine, especially for the fact that they had the audacity to post it online. China is right to make an example of this sort of antisocial behavior before it becomes a trend.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Unless these are rich kids, the specific amount is probably a bit excessive. It's not really humane to keep someone in debt for a decade for something they did as a minor, especially something that, while certainly harmful and deserving discouragement, isn't exactly arson.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 32 points 6 days ago

It also found that the teens' parents had "failed to fulfil their duty of guardianship" and ordered that they bear the compensation, state media reported. 

This includes 2m yuan for operational and reputational damage, 130,000 yuan to one of the caterers for tableware losses and cleaning expenses, and 70,000 yuan in legal costs.

Looks like it’s the parents on the hook for it

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Exactly. The only way this doesn't seem really excessive to me is if it's like that €100,000 speeding ticket in Finland that made the news because they assign a penalty based on either income or net worth (I forgot which)

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

are fines suddenly ok when its china? a crime thats punished with a fine is just one thats only legal for rich people

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you can avoid much of that particular flaw with fines by scaling them to income (or wealth if you're clever enough)

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that would definitely be a big improvement to implement rn without radical changes, but it still wouldnt be fair, youd still be sometimes taking money from someones rent and sometimes taking money from someones investments. it's also punitive justice which doesn't work. i dont think the government should intentionally hurt people

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

2.2 million yuan [...] This includes 2m yuan for operational and reputational damage, 130,000 yuan to one of the caterers for tableware losses and cleaning expenses, and 70,000 yuan in legal costs.

punitive would be paid to the state? "fine" and "fined" don't show up in the article at all. not exactly sure where the other 200k are going

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i dont like when people have to pay money for things

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

idk this seems like a situation where money can pretty directly restore a lot of the harm done and i wouldn't trust those kids to work in the restaurant like the old trope of getting dish duty when you can't pay the diner for your meal. Making them do a few thousand hours of "community service" doesn't repair their victims.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think giving the international bourgeoisie money is restorative justice, but that could just be me.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago

ok we are very far afield from "oh this is damages, not fines" now.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And what would you suggest?

If they gave them community service, all the anti-China media would immediately be shouting about "forced labor".

The simple question is this: do you want China to turn into a shithole like the US or do you want it to remain a well behaved, civilized society? Sometimes you have to be strict with people who show extreme disrespect to the society and the people around them. Do you think the USSR tolerated extreme anti-social behavior?

Especially with today's online culture, as the government you have to immediately stamp out this kind of thing before it becomes some sort of "cool" online trend or "challenge" for the youth, if necessary by disproportionately harsh punishment to set an example. I'm sure if you look on Chinese social media you will find that most Chinese people not only agree with this, some are probably calling for even harsher punishments. People would be up in arms if the government did nothing.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago

If they gave them community service, all the anti-China media would immediately be shouting about "forced labor".

Who gives a shit? They can say what they want and China will keep trucking

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Excessive fine, hopefully it was because the parents were rich or something like that. The article also says the 17-year-old kids were drunk.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

unclear if it's total or each

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

It is clearly an antisocial act that deserves a sanction that will be significant to offenders. Fuck the private property thing, pissing in other people's food is fucking gross. I hope the fines are scaled to the financial situation of the offenders but in general I don't think fines are the best way of dealing with this. You don't become a more responsible member of society by having to pay a lot of money, you only become poorer.

Personally I think a better sanction would have been some kind of community service combined with programmes for education, employment and hobbies/sports/etc. that sought to remedy the causes for their antisocial behaviour and reintegrate them in the community.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

Finally, a country where “It’s just a prank, bro.” doesn’t fucking fly.

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

ast Friday, a Shanghai court found that the teenagers had infringed upon the companies' property rights as well as reputation through "acts of insult", noting that their actions contaminated tableware and "caused strong discomfort among the public".

Dipshit capitalist country more concerned with capitalists "property rights" and reputation than actual justice.

If they deserve punishment make it among the public sphere e.g years of community services for the entire family or something. Isn't that what the dipshits are so concerned about the "reputational" damage lol. So make them do something actualy good for society instead of debt slavery. Putting an entire family on debt $300k is an insane amount yet predictably some people will defend this shit.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No price is too great for pissless hotpot. Antisocial behavior should be punished, and hopfuly an example is made out of these kids.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

No price is too great for pissless hotpot.

Tagline pls

[–] traxanh@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

From what I've read, the company wanted compensation of up to 23 million yuan, citing costs like refunds to affected customers and reputational damage, but the court ruled that this was speculative and reduced it to 2.2 million yuan

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

why would anyone pay $300,000 to urinate in a hotpot?

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Kink is expensive

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

That's an insane amount of money wtf. Unless this family is loaded they're intergenerationally ruined because of one horrible but harmless act.