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Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.

Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 229 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's so perfectly typicsl for the right.

It's really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to... bury the evidence.

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sort of.

I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it's a simple business strategy. It's not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it's just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.

But for right-wingers, it's some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that'll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They'll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?

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[–] Greddan@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

Fascism and Corporatism is the same ideology. Thanks Mussolini.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 131 points 1 week ago

Their feelings don’t care about the facts

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Here is an archive of the DOJ site in question. They had to be sure they took it down before Vance hopped on Kirk’s nazi podcast to spout lies claiming the opposite of objective reality.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250731061848/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Can't be letting pesky facts get in the way of them abolishing the Democratic party.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 115 points 1 week ago

Own it you fucking twats.

All conservatives are terrorists

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 105 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The right wing are bad people and we need to stop pretending it's just a difference of opinion. They in several fundamental ways suck.

And yet everyone's all like "oh Goebbels was a gifted marketer and father we can't say mean things". Fuck 'em. They can choose to stop being shit any time they want. Until then, they deserve nothing but scorn.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

“We” are not maintaining the delusion that the right wing monsters are legitimate. It’s the media that has pretended these far right extremist positions are sane, and has elevated them to prominence. If they were honest about how loathsome and unamerican right wing ideals are, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Media corpos are typically run by right wingers, and are massive for-profit companies that make a killing on running election ads (presently a ~20Bn industry cyclic every 4 years), so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that they do this. And now the Trump admin has weaponized the DOJ to go after them for any criticism at all, so this phenomenon is on steroids currently.

I strongly agree with your last sentence. The media, other politicians, etc - nobody is going to hold right wingers accountable for us. Unfortunately, we have to do it ourselves, to their dumb faces, and force them to face the uncomfortable truths of their reprehensible actions. Good luck, be strong, and find ways to consistently stand up for the morally correct positions. Keeping pressure up this way is a vital component to how we can win.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.

What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.

There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.

Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.

Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If we delete and hide the evidence does it really exist?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.

The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that's coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.

It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Wow, what fragile egos.

Someone keyed my minivan over the weekend, probably because of some pro-trans/science stickers. Luckily the paint is not a concern of mine (it had rattle-canned sections when I bought it, I knew what I was getting), but still. I pointed it out to my wife, she just quipped "and they call us snowflakes 😂". God I love that woman.

All of this shit makes me want to play dirty now. Preach hate, get hate; and all that.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've been simmering on some 'radical left-wing' grafitti such as;

Be Kind

Build Community

Don't Hate

Love Thy Neighbor

But I don't want to get black bagged for spreading such subversive rhetoric.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I would straight up start busting windows out of any vehicle with trump stickers. But I have a family who needs fed and housed, so I don't.

Yet.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The American Nazi party deletes documents showing their supporters are pieces of shit... Who could have ever seen this coming.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every German who went to school after 1945, for one.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

Every German who went to school after ~~1945~~, for one.

More like 1980.

In the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a widespread reluctance among Germans to acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. However, this began to change in the 1960s and 1970s, as a new generation of Germans began to grapple with the legacy of their country’s past. The first efforts to teach about the Holocaust in German schools began in the 1980s, and since then, the curriculum has continued to evolve to better reflect the complexities of this history.

https://knowgermany.com/do-they-teach-about-the-holocaust-in-germany/

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ministry of Truth.

This is bad.
It's also so obvious I'd consider it a show of power. A threat.

Right wing Europeans are continually taking notes of what can be done. And they are all forming an Internationale.
Its so fucking bad.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We need to shut down fascists by disrupting their conferences and communications, and dividing them by disparaging the evangelists' support for Trump as betraying Christian values (because Trump is atheist), and by disparaging the fascists' support for evangelists as betraying the state values (in that the church doesn't listen to fascism), and so on. Divide and rule.

Communists need to have more children than the fascists.

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[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 40 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I have no words honestly. Ever since the Kirk shooting, things are spiralling further down and getting to a point of no return. I think war is going to erupt soon between fascist far-right groups and everyone else. Not just in the U.S., but in Canada, too.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

"The facts don't care about your feelings" crowd continues to hate facts.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That book will probably be banned soon and the author will be arrested and sent to a reeducation camp together with all the other liberal disruptors.

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They're trying to rewrite history/truth because they wanna push the "left wingers are domestic terrorists" thing so bad rather than admit right wingers are just pieces of shit lmao

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If only there were another historic event/group that would be make a good comparison.
OH WAIT

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 27 points 1 week ago

Stop Covid testing! It's making our numbers go up! - Trump, 2020

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The study showed far right extremists had 5x as many attacks since 1990

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So what's this bullshit called now cause justice is not the correct word.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got you, fam, the word you are looking for is "jingoism".

The MAGA DOJ is the Department of Jingoism.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh wow... Hey I just learned that water is wet btw.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

A post truth regime.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Corrected text:

"Following Chork getting what he deserved, and the Trump terrorist regime's threat to go after a demented fiction, a study showing most domestic terrorism being far-right, was censored."

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Of course it was.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Well, "study" is already such a radical-left, woke concept! Like all those "studies" about vaccines. True MAGA Patriots go by gut feeling and by other things that are also produced in the guts!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know if we actually wanted to get rid of these people it would be really easy. All we have to do is release some deadly but preventable disease. Then encourage everyone to get vaccines.

The problem with covid is that it wasn't really deadly for most people. So they got sick and were probably miserable but they never learnt their lesson.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This is being done by the "facts don't care about your feelings" people?

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

That study was flawed because it didn't show the correct result.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

The New World Order cannot tolerate evidence that doesn't comply!

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