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[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And then China threatens to nuke the U.S. if they finish their civil war by invading Puerto Rico. Then China spends decades pretending Puerto Rico is the real U.S. and arms them with billions of dollars of weapons to this day. China also never officially claims that the U.S. is the real United States and sails aircraft carriers off the coast of Florida every month while threatening to destroy the U.S. if they retake Puerto Rico.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would avoid mentioning China directly in this comparison for libs. They'll hear you talking about "China bad" in a hypothetical and everything else will shut down and that will be their only take away from the conversation.

I would say that the intervening nation should be somewhere like "France" perhaps, a country on the other side of the ocean with no business determining the affairs of the country going through a civil war.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

I've used this exact analogy before, and used the UK as the power backing the Confederate vestiges against the US in the hypothetical. It's reasonably close too: the mid 19th century UK would be comparatively moderate beside the Confederates in terms of how they presented themselves, but would have both material reasons for trying to curtail American power while also being just as monstrous under the surface (but on a much bigger scale) as the Confederates were.

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

In this comparison, the Confederates also ethnically cleanse the islands native population

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t need to imagine shit unfortunately. Puerto Rico has become the most southern klanner state.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know how Argentina had a policy to displace their own populace with gabagools? Imagine that, but with crypobros and investment vultures, in an island with the wealth disparity of Mississippi…it ends up becoming Mississppi, racism and all.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah that's pretty good. plus China's claim to Formosa is way more legitimate than any US- splinter's claim to any Caribbean island.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Or indeed, US's claim to literally any land on the planet

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Uhh, where’s the burger I’m supposed to imagine?

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

honestly i would not really care

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would not care about what?

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So, you wouldn't care about colonizers further colonizing an occupied island in this analogy?

The problem with this analogy is that you could argue that Taiwan was always a part of China, despite having an indigenous population, but you couldn't come close to make that argument for US/PR. This analogy would be straight colonization and should be something cared about. I'm not sure if you're saying you wouldn't care because you're trying to make a comment about China/Taiwan or because you just don't care about US/PR dynamics.

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

ig the analogy is hard for me when its implying amerikkka should invade a country to liberate it. also yall are adding a lot of details i didnt get from the image, like now this is about colonization, they didnt say they werent cool with it in the image. what if the world was made of pudding, sorry im not mad enough about something that didnt happen and we dont know any details of. i cant think of a time an analogy has ever made anything easier to understand for me, im not saying this is my take on taiwan, id rather just have that situation explained to me. maybe this image would work for someone who thinks amerikkka invading a country could ever do something good for them

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

It did kinda happen though? US invaded Puerto Rico, colonized it, and continues to occupy it. You might not know it but it's US history, I'm not adding my own spin to this.

That's why I said this analogy is a little off, although I get the gist.