It is kind of conflicting. He wanted no empathy but also didn't deserve any. Fuck that cunt. He FAFO
this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2025
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What's conflicting about that?
In objective reality, if you treat people who profess to believe such things like that, they bitch and moan until they get their way. But if the roles are reversed, they really act like they don't give a damn about you.
This is a case of rules are for you, but they don't apply to me.
These type of people are just so annoying to be around to put it mildly.
I have empathy for the people that suffer because of that vile cunts rhetoric.
I have empathy for that vile cunt because you don't become that vile cunt if everything is going great for you.
But if you are responsible for so much pain in the world it is better if you don't exist. I also would take a change of heart. If that vile cunt changes it's ways and start doing good in the world. Fine, that's even better than dead. But was that ever an option?
Bring evil = -1
Being dead = 0
Bring good = +1
I think that is a rational way to see that problem.
Don't people say that no one is the villain of their own story? They think they're the good ones, that's why this reasoning doesn't work.
What they think doesn't matter. There is stuff that is objectively good and there is stuff that is objectively bad.
Now hold up. We'll start having too much fun with relativism if you keep talking like that.
But even being a relativist, I find being a utilitarian is really helpful for actually interacting with the world. It's just that whatever formula you use will always be shit from the perspective of another totally legit value system.
All that to say: Yeah I agree, doesn't matter if he thought he was Jesus. He was causing real harm to people.
He took money to harm others. There are few more evil positions.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying the version of the story they tell themselves isn't the same version others have.
I have a problem believing he thought is wholesome. to celebrate violence or lack of empathy.
I think the conflict only comes if you are a person who feels empathy. His positions are irrelevant in the face of a human body suffering a miserable catastrophe.
The fact that he was a douchebag doesn't change the fact that a body had its neck exploded, and that probably hurt and was frightening. These are experiences. If you have empathy then you have a sort-of mirror- experience. It doesn't become joy just because he sucked as a person. That's sadism, to enjoy another body's misery.
Edit: you can appreciate the irony one moment, while at another moment empathize viscerally with the miserable experience. Then later even sadistically enjoy the suffering of "an enemy" (but be honest that it's sadism).
If you feel nothing it's partly because he's "an enemy" and he's dehumanized to some of us apes, but also the big media spectacle and all the hot takes overwhelm and override what you might otherwise feel.
The way I see it, it's good that he has shut up, but it's not good that it took him being killed to do it
He liked to parade around under a sign that said 'change my mind'. He never had any intention of changing his mind about anything, and would use any disingenuous argument he could come up with to avoid it. He was a complete charlatan, and it baffles me how he got so popular.
Edit: sorry, it was 'Prove Me Wrong', but the point stands.
He also failed at the first hurdle
He'd make a statement, and then demand that people prove him wrong
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim
He was disingenuous from the start (which is no surprise, because he was a cunt)
Empathy doesn't mean you'll adjust your position. It just means you can RP as someone well enough to come away with an understanding from that person's perspective.
You can be empathetic and once the exercise is over, still not budge in terms of your original assessment.
Empathy is dangerous to fascists. Everything they're doing unravels if a population is good at it. It's why they hate it so much. Don't toss them a free W.
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I feel empathy that he could have changed. Had so many times to see what he was doing was wrong and could've been a force for good. But choose to be evil. I feel empathy that he couldn't see what the road he traveled would hold. How he didn't see the harm he would bring his daughter and wife.
But for the man himself? I wouldn't piss on him, even if it closed up that hole he got.