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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Suprised he lets himself be called a 'Secretary'.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 142 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I dunno, it's a pretty huge deal of a change. It's literally historic and a major sign of the times. As others have pointed out, I actually enjoy this less duplicitous name. But the context of the change does not bode well.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So, yes and no - It was the "Department of War" for most of the country's existence. Truman changed it in 1947 when doing a massive overhaul of the military and intel parts of the government. Also, just calling "Department of Defense" hasn't prevented us from getting into a whole mess of wars since then.

I do agree that it's a sign of the times in terms of "everything old is new again" and undoing the 20th century, which is the T47/project 2025 stated goal. Sure as shit, we're making incredible progress towards returning to 1860.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FDR changes name from War to Defense, and Congress hasn't declared War since. They're just special military operations

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago

Pretty much. We bombed Vietnam and killed a bunch of middle eastern people. Just a bunch of special military operations.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looking into it, the department of war had removed the navy 150 years before. Arguably the DoD was a new department to encompass the department of the navy and the department of the army(the previous department of war) without the implication that the army was in charge being associated with the war department without the navy for so long. The naming, I could argue, is disrespectful to the US Navy of the late 1790s to the late 1940s.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might as well call it what it is. "The Department of Imperialism".

[–] mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought that was the CIA

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[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Department of Defense always reminded me of 1984:

The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So the orange Cheeto, who is trying to get the Noble Peace Prize… just wrote an EO rename things to the Department of War

God I wish you could turn cognitive dissonance into harnessable energy.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He was also an undercover FBI informant in the Democraric hoax that are the Epstein files.

Plus the FBI just released an official document setting the record straight; Definitely not a small penis.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago

Secretary of DUI, Kegseth

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Used to have a roommate like this in first year of college. They just stick to this one stupid thing that they think are hyper-masculine (in his case, it was going shooting and owning big guns) and they won't shut up about it. These fuckers are so annoying. Like we get it bro, you're a big manly man, now stfu about it. These are usually the most childish people irl.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you have no personality.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And I’ll be a ten that he’s complained about “vegans always telling everyone about it”.

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[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Liver damage needs to hurry TF up breh, he's so embarrassing.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Look, man, I'm doing my best on a motor with no compression here 😔

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Liver sclerosis would be pretty bad too, if it were a thing

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That man yells out his own name during sex

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Dude needs a mirror to masturbate

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 44 points 1 week ago

Secretary of w-here are the fucking epstein files?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

did they officially change it from defense? that might be the first honest thing they've done in their miserable lives in pursuit of fascistic grandstanding.

[–] zzz711@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right now it's an alternate name via executive order. Officially changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War requires an act of Congress.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My first split-second initial reaction was "oh hey they're being honest for once", but that was very swiftly followed by "oh fuck what are they teeing up here, they're not doing this for no reason"

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

Trump has been calling himself a war-time president (the war is unspecified) and saying how nice it would be if he could suspend elections and stay in power due to a war. This has been in the making for a while. If he's still alive in 3 years, he'll start a war to stay in power.

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Isn't it interesting? For people who hate "woke" and rally against gender identity transitioning, they sure love transitioning the identity of an entire government department and complaining when people dead name it. Snowflakes, the lot of them.

Edit: For bonus points, remember that these are the kind of conservative that bitch about LGBTQ people "making it everyone else's business," while they themselves are extremely in-your-face about these changes.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

It's the Gulf of MEXICO goddamnit

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Calling the military "defense" has always been doublespeak. Its literally the opposite of what they do. Department of war is the correct term.

Obviously this administration are all monsters, and they're changing the name because they think they think it sounds intimidating. But the name change is the one good thing this administration has done, clearly in error.

[–] DNS@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago

DoD uses to be called DoW, but was changed to give a better image of the country. Reverting back to DoW under this administration, is not the good sign people think it is.

Also, that joke Pete Hegseth can't even do a proper pull up, let alone a chin up. Pathetic.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can point this out to the average person, they'll still say you're overreacting.

Like between this rename, and the "trump was fbi informant" bs, I'm wondering if I'm in a simulation, cuz this is absolutely insane, literally is amateur tv script, unbelievable, if this aired on TV, it would have worse rating than GoT season 8.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 23 points 1 week ago

Secretary of binge drinking

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

So Donald or anyone in his family are going to do their service now then?

Right?

[–] medusa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just Sec of Pestilence, Famine, and Death now.

[–] Lawyerator@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

RFK Jr. has the pestilence thing covered.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

You know when guys buy big trucks to overcompensate their other shortcomings? Well...

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

At least it is accurate. The Americans are a warlike nation founded on a genocide. Orwell wrote extensively on the power of words to change a narrative and the way we feel, it is insidious and very common in the world of politics and business in a way that it is absolutely uncommon in the world of science where only the truth matters. The oil industry convinced us that we ought to soften Global Warming to the more benign Climate Change for no other reason than it makes them look less culpable. Hilarious that trump would choose this thing to tell us the truth. Gotta start someplace I guess.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

W.orthless A.lcoholic R.apists/Racists

Makes sense to me

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it because all the wars they lost? Weird flex.

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Pathetic little man...

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every single black, brown, and Asian country, and probably Canada too:

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