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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Door knocking for Bernie was one of the things that radicalized me the most away from electoralism. Every white person I spoke to hemmed and hawed about electability and the supreme court and my brother Danny said and this and that and well I'll just do what my union says etc etc, while every non white person I spoke to said their whole family was already voting for Bernie and many asked how to get involved. And then all I heard from white libs that whole election was how we should listen to black and brown people and vote for Biden. Which black and brown people were they talking to? Who is part of this mythical monolith of non whites who actually hate Bernie and want the old racist? "Well polling indicates and this rich poc doctor on NPR said" man fuck you go talk to a real human.

And then of course they stole it from him and I'll never participate in federal electoralism ever again. Any hope I had for it was dashed by my own participation in it. Meanwhile people who have never done a single goddamn thing say it's my fault we have Trump or that Biden couldn't do anything in his term.

Like he wasn't even that good of a candidate. I had complaints. I have even more now. But I truly saw under the hood about how media and the system work together to ensure electoralism cannot possibly work, by getting out there and knocking doors and I can never unlearn it. So thanks Bernie for at least inspiring me to get out there and do some direct participation in electoralism because it really helped fuel my immense rage against liberalism

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

maybe-later-honey Uhhh obviously this is fake, Bernie is the candidate for privileged white bros. That's why he lost South Carolina in the 2020 primary, because all the black people there voted for Biden and you should trust their judgment because you aren't racist, are you?

For real, though, the Democrats lost me forever with how they did Bernie dirty. Then they lost me forever twice over when they willingly became complicit in the Palestinian genocide.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Tbf, that is what post Soviet "conservatives" are like.

Let me tell you, seeing someone my dad's age actually want the USSR back, is really bizarre from where I'm standing.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

ye but bottom is more like doomjak

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

I was a Democrat through and through up until I saw how the party did Bernie. Then how Bernie did himself.

[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Obama was my Bernie. Then he bailed out the banks, kept Gitmo open and started assassinating citizen.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

I was so (much more) vapid back then. My biggest credit to Obama when he was running was him saying he did in fact inhale "that's the point."

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not me but also I was older and I had a decent idea about what elections were useful for, as a revolutionary. I think we all forget that electorialism might not work but these campaigns and movements come with a wave of radicalisation. The point is to ensure that every time, when the succdems get ratfucked or betray us or come up against the iron wall of capital we scoop up the next group of leftists and give them somewhere to shelter until the next wave.

Not to say that reforms and social gains aren't nice to have, or that Bernie winning wouldn't have been fun, but the goal is revolution. We should be coming back stronger every time, and frankly I think we're doing a pretty good job of that in the long run, given where we were in the 1990s.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

2016 post bernie -> i'm a socialist cause i want healthcare

2020 post bernie -> i'm a communist cause we will never vote our way to healthcare

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Change that for late 20s and no natural hair afterward and you got me dead to rights. The funniest thing is I'm not even American

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

i dont even own a webcam, how did you get these photos?

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty close

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Many such cases.

[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

My arc in a nutshell

[–] prole@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

I was already in my 30s in 2016 and already radicalized, but I still enjoyed seeing so many people move left. I had probably 10 friends/acquaintances tell me I was right after Bernie got ratfucked. More than a few are fully radicalized now.

As a teen I was mostly politically ignorant with an incoherent ideology. The internet was young then and I learned a few things, but not enough to really understand anything beyond "fuck these rich people".

I floated around studying ideologies without really committing to anything until my mid 20s when I realized I was genuinely a socialist/communist and it wasn't just a joke. I still flirted with anarchism for a few years, but eventually I realized there was no hope for anything short of a heavily organized vanguard party.

I still think it's funny that one of the main reasons I moved further left is because rightwingers kept calling me a socialist/communist/radical leftist/etc. I only studied it in-depth because of that.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

After participating in high school politics, I was absolutely sure that elections never solve anything, as even when we did try to do good things, the school administration prevented us from doing so. In college, I softened up my stance abit just so I would stop making people literally cry in class from shutting them down so hard and comprehensively (literal liberal tears, which was heartbreaking), but I have since recalcified after seeing all of those well-meaning progressives get duped or dupe themselves over and over again. Instead, I have gotten better at how I present my stances.

I've always admired Marxist thinking though. That never changed.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was already pretty jaded by 2016 though I did have hope in the Bernie movement because I correctly diagnosed* at the time that some of his campaign promises represented one of our last decent shots at an off-ramp for some of the shit coming down the pike.

*I wasn’t really being correct I was just being pessimistic and then COVID showed up and made me super-duper correct

[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Every day I thank communist God that I developed a political outlook through punk albums and weird cranks in Marxist IRC channels

[–] built_on_hope@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Me but with Jeremy Corbyn

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Teen years I speedran the whole range from my parents chudism to Bernie. Now (early 20s) I'm definitely a communist but unless it happens real soon doomjak it doesn't matter much

[–] PolyethylenePt2@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

I (also early 20s) did the same thing where I speedran from centrist who was actually just right-wing to lib during my teen years and then Israel + 2024 US election made me totally break (I had my head up my ass with the "I don't really care about politics grillman" stuff for way too long)

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say I became an out an out communist in between the two Bernie runs, but I was definitely on that trajectory throughout the Obama years.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

yes but older than 20s

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago