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Leopards Ate My Face

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A Jeffrey Epstein survivor who says she voted for President Donald Trump is now calling out his dismissal of the Epstein story as a “Democrat hoax” and questioning who he’s “hiding for.”

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a dumb fuck, "I voted for the rapist who is best friends with my rapist hoping that he would punish rapists".

MAGA truly are the dumbest people on the planet.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whoa whoa, some people don't choose to have a learning disability.

MAGA specced into it. There's a marked difference.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, case and point the op post is a maga with learning disability of voting for Trump. Way too often have i seen magas unable to learn from their actions in choices.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

careful, there's some mentally deficient mods around here that are triggered by that term.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup I know, they can choose to silence me and defend the MAGAS

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I 100% agree with the intened sentiment of your statement Lets not insult those with intelectual disabilities by comparing them to the brain rotted idiocy that is maga.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did not insult disabled people, i didn't say "retards are maga". That would be insulting to innocent people.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Technically correct, but unhinged. lmao

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

We're not unhinged enough to win our democracy back

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 108 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Jones does not believe Trump himself is involved in the scandal — but now fears he’s covering up for someone who is.

“There is no one that is accusing him of any wrongdoing,” Jones pointed out. “So for the fact that he is saying those things. and saying it’s a hoax, who are you hiding for then? Because if it’s not you, then who is it? And that scares me. Who is it?”>

Yikes.... i just can't

[–] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.org 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

When you're plugged into a propaganda machine, you're going to believe the propaganda no matter how "smart" or "dumb" you are. Garbage in, garbage out.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Calling these people stupid will only make them dig their heels in. They're victims of propaganda.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, cool.

What approach will get them to change their minds?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Start with not insulting them. People make decisions with emotions and explain them with logic. If you piss somebody off they won't listen to you.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That is good advice for reasonable people.

Maga shits are not reasonable, they actively oppose anything positive or based on science and logic. They see people being nice as a weakness. Have you been paying attention at all to what was said by the lady this post is about?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think they're reasonable or likable either, but if you ever want to have hope of "deconverting" them, don't call them stupid.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get where you are coming from but I also see where Spankmonkey is coming from. At the end of the day it’s hard to be nice to people who have spent the last decade calling us libtards and, as the child of a lesbian couple I can personally attest, many times calling or doing much worse things.

Personally I don’t think these people are willing to be deconverted or even want to convert you. We are past that.

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is my problem. I've read a lot of books around deprograming and I agree you're not supposed to insult them. But the main factor is they have to be curious. Magas that i know aren't at all curious. They don't care.

It's like before you can work on the problem you have to admit there's a problem.

If they never admit it, what then? I struggle with this myself. Opting to go with "well fuck em" mentality, but hey, I'm human too.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

from what i've seen the only thing that works on these people is active threats, physical or societal.
Make it obvious that actual nazis get drowned in piss, that nazi enablers don't get to be a part of society, and that the only way to be treated normally is to stop being a piece of shit.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You absolutely can. Unfortunately only your own

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

If you are covering up for someone else, you are involved.

Perjury, aiding, and abetting are all crimes.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

And, yeah... plenty of us are accusing him of wrongdoing

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“I voted for him,” Jones said. “I voted Trump. And for him to say what he is saying, it is beyond me. Because I put my hope in him! And he’s supposed to protect us!”

That poor woman is dumb as hell.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

They're in their own fake world my guy

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, at least she didn't say he's hurting the wrong people?

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] moakley@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Here's a version of this where he has smaller hands.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“You have daughters!”

He knows. 🛏️🤮

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But do they look like his when she was teenager?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is this absolute peak 'Leapords Ate My Face'?

For an individual, at least, I can't imagine a much more extreme situation. Especially with the ongoing denial! It's unreal.

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Rick is probably dead from cancer by now. That Trump vote really helped him escape.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 31 points 1 month ago

I cannot imagine what it has to be like inside a head that has suffered like that and then concludes, "Yes, the Republicans - especially Donald Trump - will serve up justice for me."

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

So an idiot was surprised by something predictable.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

World's smallest violin.

Have the day you voted for.

[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I have to share a world with these people and not just them, but the people she voted for.

I don't see myself as smart at all, but shit like this makes me wonder if I actually am.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

In moments like this we really have to distinguish the difference between ignorance and stupidity. There are a lot of people that voted for Trump because they are legitimately stupid and believe everything he says without question. But there is another group that, for one reason or another, fell for the grift a second time out of ignorance and genuinely believed he would "drain the swamp." I understand the immediate desire to say things like "you get what you voted for," but that aggressive stance is exactly why so many people flocked to Trump in the first place. Calling them stupid and making fun of them is exactly why they flocked to the side that made them feel "special." Because just like every cult, they convince the ignorant, angry, and confused people to join them by making them feel vilified and righteous.

I'm not saying don't be angry with them. Your anger is justified and it is cathartic to say "I told you so," but we should direct our anger towards the cult leader not the victims of the cult. A lot of these people were just angry at all the same things we are angry about. Trump used it as an opportunity to scoop them up into his cause and promise them the world to just take advantage of them (he is a rapist, afterall). I'm sure almost everyone that joins a cult has said at some point they'd never be dumb enough to join a cult.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It takes willfull ignorance by a stupid person to not know he is a rambling piece of shit at this point. These people are fucking stupid and we can shit on them all they want because it isn't like being nice would change their mind when they are so disconnected from reality.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have you ever talked to people that were in a cult before or seen interviews? You'd be surprised how far things can go before they start to wake up to what's really going on, especially those that were indoctrinated from a young age. You're asking people to change their entire outlook on reality along with their beliefs and opinions and then call them stupid without getting it on the first try. No matter who's right or wrong, If someone was trying to do that to you would you not get immediately pissed off and try to avoid them as much as possible?

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

call them stupid without getting it on the first try

I think we're beyond the first try at this point. It's been 10 years.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Like I said,

it isn’t like being nice would change their mind

They need to be scolded and told they are doing the wrong things. That is the only way they could possibly learn, which they won't because if they weren't stupid they would have caught on to the fact that they are supporting awful stuff.

But at least I get to vent and maybe somebody ignorant about the details will catch on.

[–] faktotum@leminal.space -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're only nice to people to change their mind?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm nice to everyone unless I find out they are a piece of shit. Voting for Trump's second term and/or supporting him after everything he has done makes someone a piece of shit.

If they change their mind and start opposing Trump they stop being an active piece of shit and can work towards repairing the damage they did. As long as they aren't actively being a piece of shit I'm fine being nice.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago

In moments like this we really have to decide if this is a doomer community or not.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

Plot twist: he nonced her.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 8 points 1 month ago

leopard, meet face.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

lol wow. It doesn’t get any dumber than this. 🤦🏽‍♀️