They're really against anything nice that can be achieved through cooperation, aren't they?
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Or education. They absolutely hate education.
100% this. They don’t want educated people. And the news/media that does exist they want to control.
They doing it to encourage offline cooperation /s
Republicans would be upset about Wikipedia being censored if they knew how to read.
downloaded a backup yesterday
everyone with sense and 160GB should do the same
Just 160gb? I will get a USB and back up the whole thing.
25ish for your language of choice, 130 something for media files
very manageable, grab that copy
The poor getting knowledge for free?! This is America!!!
MAGA = Make Americans Gormless Assholes
already have it all downloaded
MAGAt morons really hate facts...
"we've come to realize that people knowing stuff is a real problem for our agenda."
How long is it going to be until America has a great firewall ala China.
well it's already happening. look what recently happened in Mississippi with age verification.
protip if you're American and you ask "how long until America has such and such" chances are, 9 times out of 10, it's already happening or has happened and you're just not aware.
"Yo dog, I heard you like freedom so I gave you freedom from your freedom!"
I do tech support on a global company, and some customers have started to demand their cases not to be readable for our usa based colleagues, nor the shared info hosted on usa clouds. So that wall is somewhat already there.
I wonder if they're going to investigate conservapedia for bias.
Hey no fair, the US is just copying us! (UK)
We targeted Wikipedia first recently waaaaa
Sir you seem to have a bias for presenting unbiased facts. This simply can not be.
Fyi everyone: you can download the entirety of Wikipedia yourself from kiwix and it's only about 50gb for the whole thing, 100 with all images.
That's highly dependent on how many, or which, languages you download, I think.
This is true, I was referring to english wikipedia.
why doesn't wikipedia just move out of the US?
Quick question, honest question......
At what point are the right happy?
Because the left will be happy when everybody has equal rights, and a high standard of living for everyone.
So, if that's the lefts benchmark of a great society, what's the right fighting towards? Money? Power? Control?
Then what?
When is America "great again"?
Because they've been pushing that slogan since the 80s. What's the endgame here?
Because from where I'm sitting, there is no endgame. Nothing will ever make them happy. Nothing will ever be good enough. So what the fuck is the point?
Fascism, as an ideology, is utterly fascinating to look at sometimes. It strikes so many wildly different mental chords that you can get lost trying to understand the minds of its believers and followers without even trying to, all while just drinking your morning coffee.
At what point are the right happy?
To answer this, it is utterly critical to mention that Fascism, as an ideology, is fundamentally predicated upon the idea that the Fascist "In-Group" is better than whatever "Out-Group" they are focused on at any given moment (Jewish people, LGBT+, Black people, Mexicans, etc.). To that end, they will stop at NOTHING to crush, oppress, exterminate, and ultimately obliterate that Out-Group completely, all the while screaming to their fellows and to anyone that will listen that the Out-Group is simultaneously infinitely weak and easy to crush, as well as insurmountably strong and impossible to resist. This contradiction allows them to drive themselves into a frenzy, by pissing each other off, as well as draw in new recruits who hear about the Out-Group as "weak" and decide they want to get in on it. Meanwhile, anyone who thinks deeper about this contradiction more easily writes off their movement as sloppy, reactionary, and ultimately harmless, since they clearly don't know anything, letting them amass real public support under the radar for DECADES; we've seen this in America, with Fox News doing tons of heavy lifting for almost 50 years now in the Fascist PR department. It WORKS.
Once the In and Out-Groups are established, and public support starts to amass, the Fascists move to take public office, often starting in smaller, local elections that nobody runs for, elections that they can get a bunch of their buddies in the In-Group to vote for. Once they achieve public office, they try to continue ascending the public ranks to further their group's political legitimacy, often forming alliances and coalitions with other right-wing and conservative groups to garner additional support in the legislature. For a historical example, the actual Nazis did this in Weimar Germany, starting as a fringe group in local elections, slowly climbing the ranks and gathering support, and ultimately working with other conservatives to seize power. Once sufficiently embedded in the system, they start purging members who aren't sufficiently zealous and loyal to the In-Group, now a Political Party, and continue raging about the Out-Group, but on a state-side, or even national scale.
At this point, several things can happen. If there isn't strong enough leadership in the party, it can splinter into a bunch of factions that hate each other, but still work together because they hate the Out-Group more. If there IS strong leadership in the Party, then they tend to make a mad grab for power, and consolidate it as much as they can. We saw this with Jan 6, Germany saw it with The Night of The Long Knives. Should this fail, the whole Party may very well self-destruct from infighting.
Now, you may ask, "what does any of this have to do with my question???" Remember, the entire time they've been climbing the political ladder, they've been raging at the Out-Group constantly, whipping themselves ever higher into a frenzy, garnering more and more support as they gather legitimacy in local elections. And now that they've made their mad grab for power, should it succeed, they can actually ACT on all their rhetoric that more rational, level-headed people wrote off at the beginning.
It starts with outright oppression, the boot of the state on the neck of the masses, usually focused on the Out-Group, but everyone feels it. Then it escalates, usually into mass-confinement and deportation of the Out-Group, while the oppression on everyone else gets worse. But as the rhetoric never ends, so too must the escalation; Extermination. Once the suffering and deportation of the Out-Group isn't enough, always they turn to extermination. And once the Out-Group is gone...
Well, they'll just find a new one. And another. And another. Over and over, until there's only one group left, after all the purging and expulsion and deportation and death - the In-Group. But they won't stop there. No, they keep going, denoting various internal factions as the Out-Group, targets to purge and exterminate. Constantly, accelerating as the numbers get smaller, until the whole Party explodes.
So. To answer your question, the Right will NEVER be happy, no matter how hard or how many Out-Group members they purge and exterminate. Because Fascism doesn't have an endpoint where the In-Group """wins""". The entire ideology is fundamentally predicated on that singular idea, that the In-Group is better than the Out-Group, and the Out-Group MUST be destroyed, no matter what, and any questioning of that directive brands you a traitor to the Party and a member of the Out-Group. They'll continue down that road, purging and screaming and oppressing and exterminating until the only thing left is a room of Party leader corpses full of bullets from each other's guns. Or until they're stopped. Whichever comes first.
They can’t be happy. The whole platform is to take the country back to before all of society started conspiring against the poor republican voter.
The big lie is that the dog can never catch the car because it isn’t trans people or immigrants or minorities that are oppressing republicans. It’s their politicians, the corruption that is ingrained into the system, and the rich that fight to keep the system rigged that are oppressing them and clearly republicans will never fix that
Pretty much this. The moment they actual reach end-game they'll tear themselves apart. Fascism requires an enemy to survive. If there's none available, they'll turn inwards and cannibalize.
In his essay, Umberto Eco is correct in his assessment that fascists will never be satisfied until they get rid of all of they hate, and achieve their own absolution and realization of their power fantasies, a world shaped by their warped concepts of purity and ego-driven heroism.
they are never happy.
that's the point of being despotic. everyone is your enemy, always and forever.
Ever since Covid19 I heard people saying "Wikipedia is not objective". Initially, a hard argument to go against, but my ultimate answer is this:
Encyclopedia Britannica is not objective either. No *pedia is, online or otherwise. Nothing is. And still Wikipedia is one of the best options out there, not lastly because of how it's organised. [That said, it does have - usually right-wing - strong bias in places, esp. non-English content which would need more eyes.]
I'm not surprised this is now mainstream MAGA speak.
I just hope Wikipedia is still international enough so that its content is ultimately out of the US government's reach.
They already have Conservapedia (click and weep), let them enjoy and contribute to it!
Decided to try one of the less political articles to see what it'd look like.
One expert observes that "every school shooter has been heavily immersed in violent first person shooter games."[1] Many bright futures of young men are destroyed by video game habits, and video games even cause harmful increases in blood sugar in players.[2] Video games are addictive, train young mass murderers, and promote liberal talking points or ideas.
That's one of the first things it says. Then it goes on to talk about promoting homosexuality and some more bullshit. Good stuff...
They're butthurt their changes to Wikipedia about Israel got removed for no citations.
They're butthurt their changes to Wikipedia in general got removed for no citations