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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Maybe your god could do something about that. Funny that he chooses not to.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Do we know Christians that live on other planets?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I thought Mormons get their own planet, but other xtians don't consider LDS "real" xtians, LOL, so there is that.

[–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The issue is that Mormons and other Christians seem to have differing views on who counts as a Christian. Most Christian sects use the Nicene Creed, which includes the basic set of beliefs all (or almost all, depending on your view ofc) Christian sects adhere to. Mormonism diverges from the Nicene Creed:

  • they don't believe in one God (Mormons believe that humans have the capability to become Gods, and that God was mortal at one time and had His own God),
  • they don't believe that God made the universe (they simply believe that He organized it),
  • and they don't believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one substance (they believe that They are three distinct beings).

Mormonism, on the other hand, seems to believe that Christianity is simply accepting Jesus as a prophet sent by God and the Bible as holy scripture...but by that logic Muslims would also be considered Christians.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

And I'm sure Mormons and other xtians that are not necessarily Nicean xtians might just say to those objecting that they are not "true" xtians: "well, that's like your opinion, man..." Or words to that effect. 🤣

I could easily see them pointing out - and probably many have; I have not read Mormon apologetics, though - that the Nicean Council was extra-biblical and put to a vote in a political atmosphere. Meaning, while the Book of Mormon is certainly a retcon (at least in my view), it can easily be argued that so is the Nicene Creed.

It makes a lot of sense why the ability for people to read "the" bible in their own language was something frowned on and often actively stamped out - under threat of death, even. Once the people are able to read the supposed holy documents for themselves, they are going to naturally start having their own interpretation of things, as well as start writing more fanfic to extend the cinematic universe of the original text(s)...it also explains why the printing press was followed by an explosion of xtian forks (or heresies, depending on the viewer's position).

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

hell, in the 90s mormons didn't consider themselves xtians. it's a new thing.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They didn't? You have a source? That's news to me.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Aside from knowing a lot of mormons in the 90s, i found this:

the person who shared it claims it's from a book called Tribes published in 1992. That tells me it's from The Lost Tribes (1992) by R. Clayton Brough, page 148
also:

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hrm, interesting. I happen to know many current and ex-LDS and I've never heard them say they are not xtians, and I've seen more than a few chafe at being called a "cult" and/or "not true xtians", etc...I could see that above passage being read as lumping all other xtians into a group, but... 🤷

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

oh yeah they will and always have chafed at being called a cult. the whole "not true xtian thing", that i saw them caring about around 2005 i think? there's been lots of "Joey Smith is the new Mohammad" over the decades

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

the Gelgameks practice Roman Catholicism

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Not persecuted enough for all the bullshit and self-righteousness they've caused

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago

oh. sure sure. of course. and their most perfect adherents like donald trump have suffered the biggest witch hunts in all of history. So sick of all those other religions doing the witch hunts on the good christian men whose virtue is beyond reproach no matter how many times they went to pedo peninsula or just straight out talked about it during interviews in their life. epstein files. epstein files.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

They're about to be

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If only saying it could make it so.

[–] LemUser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

The universe is pretty big. Robin shot up that church school (armchair psychology) because religion and the religulous told her that she was an abomination and not welcome. Then tRump's go'ment did the same. I'm sure her peers did the same. Then without mental health access and weak gun laws and a thirst for revenge - then the MAGAts blame DEI.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

It’s kind of true. Look the deportations, they are getting mostly people from Christian countries like Mexico for instance. There is an attack on a Christians it seems

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Its not a religion. But the irrelegious, atheist and agnostic od the world are probably the largest most persecuted group. Fundamentalist Abrahamic relgions (sects of Christians. Muslims. Jews . Etc) view no religion as blasphemy

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Its not a religion.

I like to think of it as the null religion.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, this. Even with the percentage of xtians falling by about 1% per year, I saw that in polling, an awful lot of people still distrust nonbelievers.

I cannot wait for xtianity to fall below 50%, but the cons are trying to stave that off by force if necessary, it seems.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

an awful lot of people still distrust nonbelievers

Those who think for themselves have never been all that well-liked.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 138 points 1 week ago
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Christian groups want to persecute everyone. Projection at its finest.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Only some Christians. I don't recall the Quakers ever having persecuted anyone. And the various Anabaptist spin-offs don't persecute anyone but themselves.

It's the ones with power that get up to evil shit.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not on Earth, of course. But when you add up all the persecuted Christians orbiting Alpha Centauri and Romulus and Omicron Persei Eight...

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does Christianity, the largest religion, not simply eat the other religions?

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Where was she in 2017 when white supremacists firebombed that mosque in Minneapolis? How about it being legal to forbid Jews from enrolling at medical schools in Minnesota until the 1950s?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Consider that the whole universe might not have been made for you, then.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seems like that's God's will then.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So persecuted that we get days off work and school based on their calendar

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My days off are Saturn-day and Sun-day. Like all the other days of the week in English, those names have a pre-Christian origin.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes but the reason they're holidays is Christian. And I was also referring to Christmas and Easter

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And I was also referring to Christmas and Easter

Yule and Eostre? The early Christians didn't celebrate either (well, some did celebrate Pesach to some limited extent). They later did a hostile takeover of the pre-Christian soltitial and equinoctial festivities, in order to make sure nobody had any fun at them. They also converted a number of minor gods into saints (mostly now deprecated by the Catholic Church, but some still hanging around in Orthodox sects).

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah but my point is that NOW we have holidays when we do to accommodate Christians

[–] nibble4bits@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Let's also take off Moon-day, Tiw's day (Germanic Mars God of war), wOdin's day, Thor's day and Frigga's day (Odin's wife).

[–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago

Neopagans, Zoroastrians, Jews, Middle Eastern Bahá’ís, Muslims outside the Middle East, followers of indigenous religions, Sikhs:

"Am I a joke to you?" reaction image

[–] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

How many religions and cultures has 'christ'ianity wiped out again?

I'd tell them to get fucked, but they already probably have been, nonconsenually, by one of their religious 'leaders'.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

So persecuted that they managed to colonize every continent and force their religious laws on people who were there first

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about scientologists? Xenu's influence is far and wide!

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[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CATHOLICS!

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Oh boy nazis are gonna love this news

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