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[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 133 points 1 year ago

Let me copy pasta myself here to save time and just say - they are already murdering us in the millions, any harm that might come to them is an act of self defence.

Look around - the violence is already here, it has been inflicted on to the working class for centuries, killing hundreds of millions (at least, in all that time) for profit in war, with hunger and restricted access to water, with homelessness and poverty, with preventable disease, with climate change, with immoral laws and entire systems designed to keep large segments of the population as slave labour, which is what they used to gain their power and wealth to be in the position to impose all of this in the first place. And all that just off the top of my head, there is so much more violence that is inflicted on us daily, they've just got most people convinced that's just life, when it really really isn't. And those who actually benefit are never just going to give all of that up.

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[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 year ago

I kind of envy the mindset where one has empathy for someone who is so out of touch with reality given their status. I like to think I'm a good, just person that wants to do the right thing but when I think of what the billionaire's perspective is: someone with so much power and influence that most people are just objects or playthings to them, it's frustrating to think about. They think they're bigger than people, the earth, maybe even the universe.

I'm not saying I could be the triggerman, I'm not that kind of person, but yeah, fuck 'em.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 71 points 1 year ago

Exactly. These people are downright evil. They at least accept that their actions kill thousands of people. Why would I has sympathy with a psychopathic murderer?

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 69 points 1 year ago

Every billionaire has enough power and influence to change the world on a whim. And every morning, every single one of them wakes up and chooses to be evil.

Imagine having so much money that you could never spend it all your entire life and your first concern is to hoard even more of it.

The more savy billionaires at least try to hide behind their "philanthropy", but it doesn't take too much digging to find out that those ventures are actually run for profit/propaganda.

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[-] bouh@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It's a war. It's just that one side has been convinced it wasn't a war so they should be peaceful and nice. Propaganda...

[-] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

It amazes me that people don't make the connection that billionaires are both directly and indirectly killing massive amounts of people. They force people to live paycheck to paycheck, skip meals, skip basic medical needs, work multiple jobs till they die, feel in a hopeless cycle until the depression is too overwhelming.

They deserve to die.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 89 points 1 year ago

They can live, but it has to be on 60k a year, with all of their initial assets liquidated and used to support people in need.

[-] NullVertex@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago

60k a year is probably already too generous in most cases, make them live off of the equivalent salary of their lowest paid employee

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.fmhy.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah i'm fine with that but not murder like a lot of people here say they want

[-] Narrrz@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago

I think most of us start with the assumption that they'll never give up their stranglehold willingly, and move on to more practical solutions.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

They need to make the choice: pay a lot more taxes, or take the second option. I'm not threatening violence, but as our society gets more desperate the targets on their backs get larger.

There are 756 billionaires in the US and 330 million of us. Once that becomes clear to people things might change, one way or the other. All other "culture wars" are noise generated to distract from this one.

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 13 points 1 year ago

Shameless displays of excess wealth is increasingly being met with more and more cultural hostility, especially amongst younger people. Gen Zers are highly likely to view people who flaunt their wealth or indulge heavily in luxury goods as being tacky or just generally negatively. The hostility as the climate crisis increases will only increase as well.

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[-] Poob@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 year ago

I want them to give up their wealth and power for the benefit of society. But they aren't going to do that, are they?

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 year ago

Billionaires is a weird group of people to choose to speak up for.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

...And?

Murder can be just without being legal.

The murder of billionaires, and CEOs of oil companies (along with all other oil executives) is morally justified, even if it's not legal.

[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

Yes. Your a naive fool.

Unironically choosing the lives of some of the most vile despicable people to have ever lived over the lives of 50,000x as many completely normal people.

I want to eradicate their genomes.

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[-] StarlightRose@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally am a pacifist, but the billionaires will not be missed if the general public decides to

I don't advocate for it, I just won't miss them

Keanu can stay though

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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Murdering people is wrong.

People work together to build a society that helps those who cannot help themselves.

By this metric, billionaires aren't people.

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[-] Harrison@ttrpg.network 40 points 1 year ago

It's them or us

[-] PeachyMcPeachface@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

My tummy has the rumblies that only billionaires can satisfy

[-] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Killing insects isn't murder. It's pest control.

[-] _jonatan_@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to murder them specifically, but I doubt they will let us take all their stolen wealth without a fight.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago
[-] unfnknblvbl@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

It's only murder if you subscribe to the "meat is murder" mantra...

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[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago

Yes.

In Minecraft, of course.

[-] Narrrz@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

murder is murder... but some murders are definitely less... crime-y than others

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago
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[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

So OP, I'm unsure how to ask this, but you wouldn't happen to be... Say... A billionaire would you?

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[-] alycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago

For me it's a case of where the end justifies the means. While murder is terrible and I'd personally feel bad if I had to take another life, it'd be for the greater good of our species (as well as every other lifeform on this planet) if the world was suddenly ridded of a billionaire or two... or more...

I do recognise that this is a slippery slope in justifying homicide, but what is the alternative?

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[-] Sanctus@crystals.rest 23 points 1 year ago

Let the free market decide.

[-] superpants@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

But the free market is rigged by the billionaires

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[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago

Shamelessly, yes.

[-] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago

Proof that people from off of Blahaj zone are weak

[-] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Not only murder, also torture.

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[-] Juice@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I'm just hangry. Lab grown billionare meat just doesn't have the same kick.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago

..do you not?

[-] HopeDrone@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes I do, even if there was a better way.

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[-] RagTheMan@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

I am a starving child and this is the last post I will see before I die. Goodbye

[-] xedrak@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I’m sorry, but this point of view is so brain-dead to me. What do you think happens when a billionaire dies? The money magically disappears? It’s redistributed to the masses? No, it’s inherited by relatives. Killing billionaires only creates different billionaires. How about we use our brains and come up with actual solutions rather than parroting brain-dead bullshit?

[-] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago

You're taking the argument at it's most basic level, assuming that we would kill the billionaires and then sit around twiddling out thumbs. I don't think it's much of a leap to assume we'd change how the system works as well lol.

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