this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2025
62 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13985 readers
793 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The Jurchen Jin dynasty (meaning β€œGolden”) ruled parts of China, Mongolia, and northern Korea from 1115 to 1234 CE. The Jurchen originated from Manchuria, but in conquering the neighbouring Liao empire of the Khitan and parts of Song China, they came to rule the Great Plain of Asia from 1127 CE until their fall at the hands of the Mongols. It is not to be confused with the Chinese Jin dynasty which ruled China from 266 to 316 CE.

Origins & Prosperity

The Jurchen were a subject tribespeople in the north-eastern part of China with the most important clan being the Wanyan. The Jurchen were descendants of both the nomadic Tungus Malgal peoples and the remnants of the defunct Balhae (Parhae) kingdom of Manchuria and northern Korea. They spoke the Tungusic language. Living in small walled towns and villages around the Liao and Sungari rivers, they were hunters and farmers. Those groups near the neighbouring state of China adopted more sophisticated technologies and cultural practices while in more central and northern areas the Jurchen remained closer to their traditional roots. Expert at animal husbandry, the Jurchen specialised in horse breeding, which became a significant source of wealth. By the mid-11th century CE, they exported some 10,000 horses to the Khitan Liao state each year.

The Jurchen were not entirely free, though, and had to pay an irksome annual tribute to their more powerful western neighbours, the Liao state, which usually took the form of furs, falcons, and pearls during the 11th century CE.

Conquest of the Khitan

In the early 12th century CE the Jurchen began to challenge the regional dominance of the Liao empire and the kingdom of Goryeo (Koryo) in Korea. The whole precarious balance of treaties and tributes in East Asia was about to collapse. An 1103 CE revolt eventually led to a war with Goryeo, when the Jurchen were led by the Wanyan leader Yingge. Winning round one, the Jurchen then had to face a fightback. In 1107 CE the Koreans sent a specialised army (pyolmuban) of cavalry and infantry led by the general Yun Kwan for the purpose of ridding themselves of this foreign nuisance. Initial victories and the establishment of fortifications by Goryeo did not prevent a resounding defeat in 1109 CE. The horsemanship, archery skills, and great mobility of the Jurchen army proved far superior and an ominous warning of what steppe cavalry might achieve in the region in the coming centuries.

The Jurchen were thus able to form their own state, the Jin, with Wanyan Aguda, their ruler, even declaring himself an emperor in 1115 CE. The Song dynasty of China (960-1279 CE) took advantage of the Jin territorial ambitions, and the two states joined forces to defeat the Liao state, who had since then dominated the region of northern China and Mongolia. Aguda, now calling himself Emperor Taizu, attacked Jehol (Rehe), the Liao supreme capital, in 1120-21 CE, and the Liao dynasty, weakened already by an internal schism between the sinicized elite and more traditional clans, finally collapsed four years later.

Invasion of Song China

Aguda was succeeded by Emperor Taizong in 1123 CE, and almost immediately he set about expanding his empire. In 1125 CE, realising their former ally the Song were militarily weak, the Jin attacked parts of northern China over the coming year. Even the great general Tong Guan (1054-1126 CE) could not stop the invasion which saw the capital Kaifeng besieged. The emperor Huizong (r. 1100-1126 CE) was captured along with thousands of others, and the Jin acquired a huge swathe of territory down to the Yangtze River. The Song were compelled to pay the Jurchen a massive ransom to avoid any more loss of life. The defeat necessitated the Song court relocate to the Yangtze Valley, and they eventually established a new capital in 1138 CE at Hangzhou (aka Linan) in Zhejiang province. This was the beginning of the Southern Song dynasty. Relations between the Jin dynasty and Song China thereafter remained mostly friendly, with a formal peace treaty signed between the two states in 1142 CE. The weakened Song, once again happy to pay off a dangerous neighbour in tribute rather than engage in more costly wars, sent the Jin silk and silver in huge quantities.

Government

The Jin capital was at Shangjing (modern Harbin), but in 1153 CE it was moved to Yanjing (modern Beijing) following the takeover of the Liao territory. As with many states which bordered with China, the Jin adopted many Chinese political and cultural practices. China was always seen as the great civilised state in East Asia, and its methods of administration and bureaucracy were effective enough to be copied by newer states like the Jin. The Jurchen also adopted writing characters similar to those in Chinese, although the Jurchen language itself is yet to be deciphered. Some things it did not copy though, and one was the Confucian reverence for officialdom. Jin rulers were not averse to publicly flogging corrupt or inept senior officials, a treatment unheard of in Chinese government.

Collapse

The nomadic Mongol tribes had been assembled under the leadership of Genghis Khan (r. 1206-1227 CE), and they repeatedly attacked and plundered the Xia and Jin states in the first three decades of the 13th century CE. Attacks came in 1205 and 1209 CE, and then, in 1211 CE the Mongols stepped up their invasion and entered Jin territory with two armies of 50,000 men each. The Jurchen were able to field 300,000 infantry and 150,000 cavalry but the Mongol tactics proved that numbers were not everything. Genghis Kahn would savagely sack a city and then retreat so that the Jin could retake it but then had to deal with the chaos. The tactic was even repeated several times on the same city. One Jin official, Yuan Haowen (1190-1257 CE) wrote the following poem to describe the devastation of the Mongol invasion:

White bones scattered

like tangled hemp,

how soon before mulberry and catalpa

turn to dragon-sands?

I only know north of the river

there is no life:

crumbled houses, scattered chimney smoke

from a few homes.

(in Ebrey, 237)

The Jin were not helped by their own internal problems either. Besides chronic corruption emptying the state coffers and the odd natural disaster in the form of floods, in 1213 CE the emperor, Feidi, was assassinated by a Jin general whose own candidate was himself assassinated only two months afterwards. The Jin rulers were compelled to retreat south and pay tribute to the Great Khan, although they were probably glad to, faced with the stark alternative. It was a respite but worse was to come as the Mongols reattacked in 1215 CE. The Jin state, now nothing more than a province, finally came to an end when it could not withstand another invasion, this time sent by Ogedei Khan, in 1234 CE. It was not an end to the tribe, though, and the nomadic Jurchen continued to raid northern Korea in the 14th and 15th centuries CE. Then, known in this period as the Manchurians, they conquered the peninsula completely in 1636 CE.

From worldhistory.org

reminders:

  • πŸ’š You nerds can join specific comms to see posts about all sorts of topics
  • πŸ’™ Hexbear’s algorithm prioritizes comments over upbears
  • πŸ’œ Sorting by new you nerd
  • 🐢 Join the unofficial Hexbear-adjacent Mastodon instance toots.matapacos.dog

Links To Resources (Aid and Theory):

Aid:

Theory:

(page 4) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old

Spending $250/month on various budgeting apps to get my finances in order. Work smart, not hard.

Calabacitas

[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The only movie to have a Kino song in it

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

First time I had napa kimchi it was from a restaurant and it was very spicy, likewise my first attempt at making it was very spicy. First time buying it from a grocery store, nowhere near as spicy, but still sour and delicious. I put some in my ramen.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So is that cash grab mgs3 remake out now? Its all over my YouTube. Looks absolutely soulless. I guess people ended out liking the re4 remake, I dont have the gear to play either but like...I've played both of the originals this year. They're fantastic. I dont see what a remake could possibly add when they kinda nailed it the first go around. If they need to do a metal gear remake, do the msx games.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

re4 remake was actually pretty good. maybe not as iconic as original, but they did a good job i thought.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

The only improvement they could have made was have Bruce Campbell play Leon and they blew it

I hadn't heard of the Shadrak Minkins rescue, warms my heart. First the heroism of freeing yourself and managing to bust north, second that people up there would risk a lot to keep him from going back, storming a courtroom and helping him escape ultimately past where American law could reach.

Feels like yanks need a reminder about a few more of those stories especially with regards to ICE today...

[–] spudnik@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Just got back from the occupational health clinic after being injured at work yesterday. I got put on work restrictions for a week that basically mean I can't do any part of my job. I texted my supervisors to let them know and they haven't gotten back to me at all. I'm scared they're conspiring to figure out what I can come in and do instead of just letting me have 3 days off to recover. I have problems communicating with them at the best of times but this is super stressing me out screm-a aaaa

Edit: the moment I hit post I got a text that just said "Ok" and nothing else. I am in hell, ahhhhh

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

coworker music dj set

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Im really glad ds9 got around the 'i dont believe in coincidences' clichΓ©. That one has bothered me since before I was 10. Garrak is on the ball as always for believing in coincidences but not trusting them.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (6 children)

self indulgent Adderall break updateIdk why I use spoilers on some of these things and not in others. Ah well

So I think I went like 3-4 days without it. Seemed to get better, longer, uninterrupted sleep, but felt way way more exhausted through the day. I think I napped two out of the 4 days. Way more irritable and sad. More grumpy about doing my chores. Not sure if this would be adderall withdrawal, or if that's actually how I am without them. My partner verified that I was napping a LOT when I wasn't on them. Which kinda makes me feel like maybe I don't have ADHD??? I've always had problems with falling asleep during the day though.

Today I woke up and have been more tired than ever, and so fucking irritated by everything. Spiders all over my yard so I have to dodge them (I actually have a phobia so it's really distressing to the point of wanting to move out), parcel locker key broke, super tired, I just wanted to throw shit. But I got my adderall and I think I'm feeling a bit more regulated. Thank the Lordt

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

Big nomadic Tungus

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

Some of you have probably seen stuff about a guy named Graham Platner running in the Democratic Primary for the Maine Senate race against Susan Collins. All the radlibs up here got super excited when he launched his campaign despite the fact that he's a nobody whose never been involved in anything up here. He touts his four tours of military service but says he opposes the wars (and strangely enough there's evidence of him opposing the wars before he joined the military). His first campaign ad is like a 2009 Home Depot commercial for manly men doing man stuff.

All of this immediately threw up lots of red flags (not the good kind of red flags). So my partner and I did some digging and it turns out he was a Constellis (formerly known as Blackwater) contractor in Afghanistan in 2018. This was conspicuously left off of his website for some reason. The Marine unit he was first in also went to Haiti in 2004, after he joined the in 2003 so it's possible he was there too but it isn't mentioned anywhere. Then when he and his unit were deployed to Iraq his unit "faced a resilient insurgency that coordinated attacks on Abu Ghraib Prison and other Forward Operating Bases in the Area of Operations."

We've decided he's probably not a psyop and just a guy who believes in leading the US empire "correctly" but it's shocking to see how quickly all the sort of leftists around us immediately glommed onto a guy with this record.

load more comments
view more: β€Ή prev next β€Ί