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The war is going great. dean-smile

Yet another horrifying scene which would be plastered all over network news if only it were happening in Russia instead.

It's not "authoritarianism" if it's happening in a US ally (or puppet).

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[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 64 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This shit breaks me in a way I can't even put into words. I have a kid of similar age as the one taken in the clip. I can only imagine the horror, the absolute horror of it and how it breaks everything in you. For the mom, I don't know if I'd be able to ever exist again if this happened. Yet in my country the ghouls are very much building consent so that this may soon become a reality and my biggest fear is exactly this. My commie kid would be sent in to sweep mines fast and it has happened here before, it would happen again. I have made actual plans of how to hide him and jesus christ...

My kids grandfather is a natohawk arsehole who gleefully signs up for this sort of shit. He never sees footage like this and if he did, he'd just dismiss it as "ruzzian propaganda". He and others like him imagine the world like it's some epic movie of good versus evil and the bourge news cycle they consume upholds it for them. They never ask who it is that would die for their empire, who is it that dies! Look your grabdkid in the eye and tell him that it is him you want to feed to the death machine!

I need these people to look young people in the eye and tell them they don't care for their lives at all as long as they get to "win againts evil russia and putler".

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

I work with a lib for whom I trotted everything out to explain what led to the war, but he was still 'Putler bad'; even though I gave him context, it took him talking to people he personally trusts to finally come around. He admitted that what I'd said had put doubts in him, but he'd even been willing to say that people in Donbas (all of them) should've just left, and that what Ukraine was doing to them was fine because 'well were they protesting maybe? Causing riots?'. If these people aren't hearing it from people they personally trust, then evidence, historical context, facts, etc will do nothing.

Unless Kamala or Biden come out and say exactly all this, libs are not changing their minds; perhaps if the news would also report all this as well rather than pretend Russia just attacked Ukraine out of the blue for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 63 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Ah, I remember this.

One of my favorite tweets was in response to it actually; a guy was saying that there's a draft and people should follow the law, that if they don't like what the law currently is, that after the war is over they can vote to change it.

God I loved that tweet.

"You must follow the law even if it's to your death or brutal dismemberment"

Twitter is just picard-pointing

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

Service Guarantees citizenship kill-em-all

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"ACKSHUALLY, since this teenager is being sent to their death in a legal manner it is fine" nerd

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

"Hey that sounds like a great idea, we can discuss it after the existential war has ended"

2025: ...

2026: ...

2027: ...

2028: "hey can we talk about it now"

"No the war is not over do you want Russia to win? Now give me your son after your 15 hour shift at the Blackrock mines ends"

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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago (55 children)

I've seen so many liberals on reddit defend this kind of thing, it makes me sick.

They usually argue that a draft is necessary to prevent genocide, as if Russia is exterminating people like the Nazis did or the Zionists are currently.

The only thing Ukraine stands to lose from peace is territory; THEY'RE the ones who were harassing and killing people on an ethnic basis on Eastern Ukraine.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's difficult for Ukrainian soldiers. A lot of their COs are commanding through iPads.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There was a guy who volunteered for the Ukrainian military and then defected to Russia to give them intel; he claims Ukrainian snipers are watching the draftees as well.

[–] enkifish@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Was gonna ask why anyone would follow orders coming out of an ipad.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They literally made an app to "decentralize command and run the war like a start-up"

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

forward he cried from the rear and the front line died

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how decentralizing connects to this, though I definitely believe you that they said that, since they've said and done even more ridiculous techbro things than that.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

I don't think they understand it either

I'm sure they were just stringing together buzzwords to sound smart

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[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The Ukraine war is such a clear example of an elite completely selling out their people. On a Radio war nerd episode a guest made a very good point. Despite Russia comitting the ultimate war crime and declaring war, the choice of Ukraine to meet it head on in a direct confrontation was very surprising. Like what happened behind the scenes for this to happen? And it seems what happened is that the US wanted Ukraine to be it's proxy and elite were happy to comply, for whatever benefits they got out of selling out their people. The two most evil figures in this from my point of view are Boris Johnson and obviously Zelensky whose descent into pure evil has been gradual but more or less complete at this point. Ukraine had one chance when they had initially pushed back the Russians to negotiate from a strong position. Now Ukraine's best function is to show other US vassals (Taiwan, Japan and South Korea especially) what their future is going to be if they keep toeing the line and being good little servants to empire.

Despite Russia comitting the ultimate war crime and declaring war, the choice of Ukraine to meet it head on in a direct confrontation was very surprising.

I also wanted to add to this that I am not convinced Russia would have attacked if Ukraine committed to neutrality. Not that it excuses Russia in any way.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The two most evil figures in this from my point of view are Boris Johnson and obviously Zelensky

And it's wild that people still don't know who Igor Kolomoisky is, Ukrainian/ Israeli dual passport holder and billionaire who was one of Azov's biggest funders but also funded a lot of Zelensky's movies before getting into politics and funded his presidential campaign

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

billionaires just get a by for anything they do. Epstein files for example. And that's the ones that have been exposed. Most billionaires just do their demon shit without any of it even seeing the light of day.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like what happened behind the scenes for this to happen?

recommend watching this, it's translated work of a Ukrainian communist in Kharkiv

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Despite Russia comitting the ultimate war crime and declaring war,

I completely detest this argument, is it acceptable to sit on your hands watching civilians getting shelled by artillery on your border because they rightly voted to leave a fascist country?

Of course Russia's ruling class is not joining this conflict for the best reasons, but fundamentally it was Ukraine attacking it's civilians that started this war.

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

in a marginally better world:

Bill Maher watches helplessly as he is press-ganged into the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

Busification videos are endless, Zelensky's regime will fight to the last Ukrainian as commanded by its NATO master

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Russia will collapse any day now. Just one more doomed offensive bro

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

About what I'd expect from a country whose national hero was a Nazi war criminal.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

takes like 10 big guys to get 1 skinny guy

what do they do next, bring him out to the woods and kick the shit out of him?

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

its giving "Strongest UkroFascists vs. Weakest Swoletariat" vibes

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

They take him to the barracks and kick the shit out of him.

[–] the_robot_from_planet_danger@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

what the fuck is with the watermarks? actively denying any agitprop use of this video? pathetic.

imagine thinking your logos are more important than these peoples lives

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it sucks. I wish I could find the raw footage.

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