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Are they constantly imagining that they are talking to UNREASONABLE individuals?

I do not come from the US, but in somewhat lefty or centrist spaces I can't see this style.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 22 points 3 days ago

Because the words aren't to convey information, they're there to convey emotion

And semi-literate chuds need the key words to stand out or they won't remember the topic to be angry about

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whoever talks/writes the loudest is the one in the right, haven't you heard? πŸ˜…

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No no, it goes more like

You are WRONG

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Naich@lemmings.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No it ISN'T, it's just CONTRADICTION.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't your LIBERAL schools teach the important difference between contradiction and TAUTOLOGY?

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is a monty python reference to an argument sketch, if I recall correctly.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No it isn't.

(Yes, you're correct)

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

and so on and so on and so on

[–] katkit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

See, works WAY better!

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My brother and I where talking about some psychotic episodes of some family members and its amazing how much it sounds like qanon stuff.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is qanon still a thing? I thought everyone has already realized that it was a hoax

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

not sure but hoax as in crazy origin or hoax as in no one ever believed it because im 100% folks believed it all they all might have had mental problems.

[–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Q and QAnon are programs erected by the CIA's COINTELPRO operatives Jack Posobiec and Zachary Klowan (I don't know if I spelled his name right). Bill Hicks (Alex Jones) had actually admitted this when it started, but he's never said anything about it since. The whole purpose of this movement was to stop a revolution taking place when attempting to oust (and likely hang) the traitorous p-philes due to Pizzagate.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

are we saying pizzagate is a real thing here?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i think what he is saying is that the pedophilia of the elites is real, and pizzagate needed some animosity diverted elsewhere.

You would be correct on that, as I wasn't clear about it. Pizzagate is a controversy where, in some emails of his, John Podesta was talking about having an hour with some "cheese pizza", which turned out to be code for some... less than ideal nonsense as described by Umbrella. These emails came out in 2016 (during that election between Trump and Clinton), and the American people (not the politicians) were going to overthrow the government... just like the Constitution dictates. However, as I shared, Q and QAnon were quickly made to divert the attention that Podesta and other elite p-philes involved and named in the emails that would come out by WikiLeaks (from what I recall of it).

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 14 points 3 days ago

They want to emphasize certain words, but don't really have the confidence and writing skills to do so in other ways

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I know it's popular to call conservatives dumb and while I don't like to beat dead horses, I really think the explanation for this is that they're dumb. The illiterate form of dumb, to be precise. The caps are a way of adding emphasis - which is something that can also be done by phrasing, word choice, sentence structure, and so on. But those techniques would require a beyond 4th grade level of writing and reading ability, so they do not succeed in the conservative communication marketplace.

I will add a disclaimer, my beloved Nietzsche also does all caps words sometimes, but I believe that since this is alongside his impressive eloquence, it is clearly not a sign of stupidity in that context. Likewise, it is not a sign of stupidity in many other contexts. That is to say:

Using that style of communication does not always make it a safer bet that someone is stupid, but being stupid does make it a safer bet that they use that style of communication.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I know it's POPULAR to call conservatives DUMB and while I don't like to beat dead horses, I really think the explanation for this is that they're DUMB. The ILLITERATE form of dumb, to be precise. The caps are a way of adding EMPHASIS - which is something that can ALSO BE DONE by PHRASING, WORD CHOICE, SENTENCE STRUCTURE, and so on. But those techniques would require a beyond 4TH GRADE level of writing and reading ability, so they do not succeed in the conservative communication MARKETPLACE.

I will add a disclaimer, my beloved Nietzsche also does all caps words SOMETIMES, but I believe that since this is alongside his impressive ELOQUENCE, it is clearly not a sign of stupidity in that context. Likewise, it is not a sign of STUPIDITY in many other contexts. That is to say:

Using that style of communication does not ALWAYS make it a safer bet that someone is stupid, but being stupid does make it a safer bet that they use that style of COMMUNICATION.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why did you just copy and paste their comment and just add caps?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago

Idk, it now sounds fun in my head. Maybe because I am DUMB, who knows

I think philosophers around that time often did this especially if they were using a word in a way it is not usually used.

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

Partly it's because they are engaging with the world from a primarily emotionally framed context at all times, which results in a stream-of-consciousness style of speech and writing. Especially when they get really worked up about something and their self-control melts away more thoroughly.

It's also not just from traditional conservatives. I serve on the board of my housing community, so I see a ton of this kind of thing from the mostly liberal neighbors living near me in a primarily gay community in the USA. Conversations on our local community forum site, or maintenance requests submitted to us are frequently filled with angry ranting nonsense that is barely legible.

Sometimes someone will rant for a paragraph or two in ALL CAPS and insult everyone else living nearby, then their tone totally changes for the final paragraphs of the email. As if they became too angry to continue, stepped away for a bit, then came back later slightly calmer and continued writing with a more relaxed tone. Why they don't restart the email at that point, I have no idea, but that communication pattern is really quite fascinating and sometimes worrying.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because their LEADER is also doing it. So it MUST be sexy and cool and HOT

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Because their LEADER is also doing it. So it MUST be "Sexy" and "Cool" and HOT.
Thank your for you attention in this matter.

FTFY

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

They're just being considerate to people that are hard of hearing, so they yell in the comments so they are easier to listen to. I mean, obviously.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

It's like they're submerged in a world of text-based begging letters. Take a faith healing correspondence, a soupcon of charitable dontaions, and a dash of chain letters. For a modern twist, blend in signs from homeless people.

Whatever the motivation, when one person is desparate enough to try and persuade you to just give your money away, there's a tone. If you grow up in that world, I imagine there's a lot of reinforcement that seeps into daily conversation.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

For just a moment I was like, "I don't do that!" but then I realized I sometimes do. It's way of adding emphasis in text that doesn't support markdown.

[–] kidney_stone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Not entirely sure, I think it's just the way some influential people started talking and now everyone is replicating it. The origins in why people talk like this is probably partly rooted in a mix of virtually 'yelling' and old people writing in all caps because they can't see the small letters.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank goodness Truth social doesn't do # markdown or things would get insane

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

Are they constantly imagining that they are talking to MENTALLY DERANGED individuals?

Not to be mean, but their message reaxhes this way more people.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Probably boomers who aren't used to more idiomatic ways of typing on casual social media?

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: ableism

Please try to frame this otherwise than β€œmentally deranged” next time.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hi there,

Didn't try to offend anyone. To my excuse, I can only say that I'm not fluent in English and didn't know that "mentally deranged" is an inappropriate collocation.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t worry too much about it. Most English speakers wouldn’t be offended, but rule #1 (β€œno bigotry”) for our Lemmy instance includes ableism, which includes sanism.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ok, thanks for highlighting that. Will try to avoid bigotry

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago

One can present a state of derangement independent of their normal mental health but which does endanger those around them while the state is ongoing. I hope you are not falling for garden variety concern trolling but even as a non-local user I wanna say I do appreciate your commenting (and that of the individual who filed the report) to prevent casual ableism.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Because conservatives are extremists and this is how extremists type.