Coming from a man, Woman's hair products come across as such a scam.
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It's not about men vs. women, it's short hair vs. long hair. Most men don't have long hair, the dish soap works for short hair but depending on your hair type you want to use something better for long hair.
There's a lot of nuance to this topic I think. In my (VERY anecdotal) experience men often have thicker hair which tends to be less brittle less quickly. At least that's my experience as trans woman, around the time my treatment started my hair got slightly thinner and more prone to damage. So it's probably also a hormonal thing.
Cis man here with long hair. My hair is super thin and breaks like crazy. I went to dermatologist (thought I was going bald lol) and it seems that hair changes a lot between people and some advice I've seen online isn't as general as much as people think, like not washing your hair everyday (she told me my hair NEEDS to be washed everyday cause it gets mega oily quickly).
But yeah, longer hair needs more care for sure, like, I had never used hair conditioner before but now it's a must, started using a hair drier sometimes too. I used to think that women taking a long time to shower and get ready we're just slow but fuck, long hair is a lot of work.
Long haired cismale here. I can use the cheapest shower gel and look magnificent.
Good for you. My hair is frizzy as fuck and I can tell you there is certainly a difference between a $3 and $12 conditioner.
I feel you. There's also a huge difference between cheap conditioner and no conditioner.
Water hardness matters a lot, too. When I visit my family and shower with their super soft water, I could use industrial degreaser and my hair would be just fine.
But when I'm at home where the water is super hard? I better use a shampoo without sodium laureth sulfate and condition regularly or my hair will become an uncombable abomination within a few days.
Possibly the flashy flatulence helps?
i can second this
Him looking magnificent?
sure what else could i have meant
I wash my very long hair 2-3 times a week and often get compliments from women. Many express some variation of "I wish my hair would grow that long" but none of them like the answer. "I do nothing to it. No heat treatments, no bleach, no color, no tight braids, no styling. Shampoo approximately every other day and condition weekly."
(Dish soap would probably strip the natural oils too aggressively, even for short hair. Rough on the scalp.)
As a guy with long curly hair, it is not that simple.
I get natural C curls from just one wash a week, no fuss. truly blessed
also has fuckall to do with gender
My brother spent a week using dog shampoo because he forgot to buy new shampoo. Hair looked the same
As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.
Bold of you to assume the top half of my head still grows hair.
Bald of you to not.
I wish I thought of this shiny new pun at the time.
I think eyebrows count as "top half of my head", unfortunately. I can sit and watch those fuckers grow in the mirror.
I literally don't use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like "wow! You have such healthy hair!" Your hair will take care of itself.
Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I'm going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!
Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).
Ah yes. Hair, and bdw raping children. Can't have a day without genocide and paedophilia.
As a man with frizzy, dry and curly hair. I have to say "doubt" on the dishwashing liquid.
More like "get that fat-solvant out of my sight, or you're gonna get it". No shampoo, only conditioner and you barely rinse it.
Relevant Screaming Trees:
I nearly lost you there
(Also, bring back 90s hair!)
Am girl. I don’t find that the kind of shampoos and conditioners really matter. I buy all kinds of volume ones for example, and there’s barely any difference. It’s more the styling that comes after. Getting a haircut that works for your hair helps too
The amount of upvotes this boomer shit has is just fucking embarrassing. Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair. It's all genetics. I'm male and my hair is long and thin as fuck.
Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair.
I used to think this also when I had long, wavy locks. Then met my secret new friend who was hiding away in the back of my genes "male pattern baldness" and now I know that men very much have different hair concerns than most women.
Also, it's not a joke about gender having an impact on hair, it's a joke about gendered roles having an impact on hair and how pointless a lot of the gendered expectations and marketed products are. Take a breath and learn the difference.
Hormones can play a role as well. Anecdotally, my wife's hair during pregnancy became fuller and less brittle. Duckduckgo "pregnancy hair". A monthly cycle, being on hormonal birth control, etc. will likely have some effect. I definitely agree that genetics does play a bigger role, but claiming that gender/sex plays no role is definitely incorrect.
Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.
Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it's not the same.
Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.
As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that... I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.
I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn't enough, usually don't bother with the double wash though.
Yes, it certainly isn't universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.
I feel marketing is a not insignificant difference as well. But if it helps people feel better about themselves who cares.
"If it's good enough for penguins, it's good enough for me. 😎"
Dishwashing liquid? That’s just good bedhead.
Well, technically, good bedhead is something much more satisfying, but I hope y’all get my drift.
Boys: now bald
That's not true.
It's mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.
Being a man or woman doesn't directly dictate the quality of one's hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one's hair is likely to be allowed to get before it's cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one's hair naturally is.
Then there's also the whole concern with one's external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.
Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.
For me it didn’t matter what I used, until I tried growing it out and trying long hair. Frizzy hair horrors, until I figured out what hair care process worked for me.