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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I mean aside of the variable name, this is not entirely unreasonable.

[–] shape_warrior_t@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would certainly rather see this than {isAdmin: bool; isLoggedIn: bool}. With boolean | null, at least illegal states are unrepresentable... even if the legal states are represented in an... interesting way.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Admin false LoggedIn false doesn't feel illegal to me, more redundant if anything

[–] shape_warrior_t@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I was thinking of the three legal states as:

  • not logged in (null or {isAdmin: false, isLoggedIn: false})
  • logged in as non-admin (false or {isAdmin: false, isLoggedIn: true})
  • logged in as admin (true or {isAdmin: true, isLoggedIn: true})

which leaves {isAdmin: true, isLoggedIn: false} as an invalid, nonsensical state. (How would you know the user's an admin if they're not logged in?) Of course, in a different context, all four states could potentially be distinctly meaningful.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

ah you are right! i am so dumb.

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[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

E: omg forget my whole comment. I agree with you that the name sucks.


I mostly don't like that role is typically an intuitive name, and now suddenly it means something I wouldn't expect. Why add confusion to your code? I don't always remember what I meant week to week, much less if someone else wrote it.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

If I had a nickel for every time that happened to me, I’d still be poor, but at least I’d have several nickels. 😁

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

The variable name is 90% why this is so unreasonable. Code is for humans to read, so names matter.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Product manager: "I want a new role for users that can only do x,y,z"

Developer: "uh.. yeah. About that... Give me a few days."

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Hmmm I need a datatype with three states... Should I use a named enum? No, no that's too obvious...

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah, the ol' tristate boolean switcheroo

[–] kionay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

tristate as in three states or tristate as in five states?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Is that a quantum boolean?

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That is the jankiest thing I have seen in at least ten years.

Edit: because of course it's office.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i would say why would you just not to isAdmin = true but i also worked with someone who did just this so i'll instead just sigh.

also the real crime is the use of javascript tbh

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's TypeScript. I can tell by the pixels defining a type above.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was looking at it and could not figure out why their weren't any semicolon's.

[–] ScintillatingStruthio@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Neither Javascript nor Typescript require semicolon, it is entirely a stylistic choice except in very rare circumstances that do not come up in normal code.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Explanation for nerdsThe reason is the JS compiler removes whitespace and introduces semicolons only "where necessary".

So writing

function myFn() {
  return true;
}

Is not the same as

function myFn() {
  return 
    true;
}

Because the compiler will see that and make it:

function myFn() { return; true; }

You big ol' nerd. Tee-hee.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's terrifying, especially in JS where no type system will fuck you up for returning nothing when you should've returned a boolean.

[–] exu@feditown.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's good to know. Don't know how I didn't know this. Been writing JS since 2000. Always just used them I guess. Ecmascripts look funny to me without them

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Same here. My brain interprets them as one long run-on sentence and throws a parsing error.

[–] ScintillatingStruthio@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Fair enough, I like it better without but I don't have a strong preference and have no issue adapting to whatever the style of the repo is.

I learned about it researching tools to automatically enforce formatting style and came across StandardJS, which eliminates them by default.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hmm, a webdev colleague said he'd normally prefer without semicolons, but used them anyways for better compile errors.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is pretty clearly just rage bait. Nothing is actually setting the value so it's undef. Moreover there isn't any context here to suggest if the state definitions are determined by some weird api or are actually just made up

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Troof

I mean facts. Facts is what the kids say. Facts.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] obinice@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

We don't use fax machines any more grandad! It's all twoggles now! Twoggle me a nurp!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sadly this is (or used to be) valid in PHP and it made for some debugging “fun”.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

There are several small details that PHP won't allow, but It's valid Javascript and it's the kind of thing you may find on that language.

[–] livingcoder@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago

I see this every sprint.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What if role is FILE_NOT_FOUND?!

[–] foxglove@lazysoci.al 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if it's 'FILE_NOT_FOUND' then the string will be read as truthy and you will get 'User is admin' logged.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 30 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Ackshually three equal signs check for type as well. So mere truthiness is not enough. It has to be exactly true.

Also, everyone knows FILE_NOT_FOUND isn't a string but a boolean value.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

role is never instantiated, so the... privileged....logs.... will never be called

Edit: Actually no logs at all, I read the null as undefined on first skim

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

What the fuck

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what if it's undefined?

[–] tfm@europe.pub 9 points 1 week ago

root access

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You could make it even dumber by using weak comparisons.

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