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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 124 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Generations don’t have anything to do with this. Billionaires are the problem

No war but class war

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Psst one generation was to stupid to realize this and actively voted to lick boots because one day they would be billionaires. Here is a hint their brains are full of lead.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah. Life was great for the Boomers! Same for Gen X! "Meh, looks good to me. Let's keep on. 'Murican way!"

Sounded good to me. We only had 3 TV stations and 1 local paper to tell us the "truth". Ironically, the "truth" back then was far truer than social media and cable news feeds us today.

So yeah, we got heads full of lead, literally. Some of us broke out of the "bubble", some didn't.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Can confirm - life not great for Gen X.

Also butlerian jihad (adjacent to class war)

Stopping genocide

Abolition (one front of class war)

But yes.

[–] anistorian@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s not the failure of our parents, it’s the exploitation by the capitalist class, that did this.

[–] anon@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it sucks to write this, but the capitalists were simply smarter than everyone else. They've gotten to such a level of control and power that it seems like achieving any kind of systemic change is either incredibly, incredibly hard or isn't feasible at all.

So I don't think this situation is comparable to the time of past revolutions. There's simply too much asymmetry here in not just wealth, but also knowledge, technology, focus and so on. So many people are distracted by trivial things, and if they're fighting at all, than they're fighting their neighbors with a slightly different political view.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also we have (in the west) basically the foundation of Maslow's pyramid of needs covered, more or less. Revolutions are 3 meals away they say, and I don't see that happening.

[–] anon@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, do I hate the way things are? Absolutely!

Will I do something about it, apart from talking and voting? No.

I know this is part of the problem, and yet I feel zero motivation to do more, at least right now, because, as you mentioned, the basic needs are covered, and also because there's still so much stuff to do (work, maintenance, ..) and enjoy (music, movies, games, ..)

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My parents left me better off than they were

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Mine too, because my parents are fucking mental.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Am 54 year old American. If young folks knew what the natural world was like when I was a kid, they would fucking SCREAM. LOL, if I teleported some of you to 1978, you would be afraid to go outside for all the wild animals and insects. Lightning bugs were fucking sweet! Love bugs, meh, not so much. So it goes.

Yes, pollution and littering has massively improved, not even a contest. OTOH, I've seen population better than double in my lifetime. That should freak you right the fuck out.

Only looking at the vertebrates we're tracking, they're 73% fucking dead. Those stats say nothing of the insects and amphibians we've killed off in a short human lifetime. We've killed off the bottom of the food chain. I've seen the food chain collapse on my fucking front porch over the last 5 years. And our house is the only reason this hood has frogs and dragonflies!

Fuck me, can't even fish around here for fear of driving the ecosystems into a further death spiral. I got loads of free gear from kayaking around and picking up fishing litter! Can't even nab a couple of fish for dinner, can't risk it. 🤬

I don't know what to do. I have a fair sized yard and 2.5 acres of swamp in the boonies. No money, but I do what I can, as best as I know. But I'm crying for what my little kids never saw and will never know.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm 40 years old from Eastern Europe. My parent's generation grew up with pollution, no infrastructure, food rationing and very limited access to pretty much everything. They saw everything improve slowly as they got older and the lucky ones were able to retire fairly comfortably. I think my generation hit the sweet spot. We grew up without all the capitalist bullshit and don't focus on mindless consumption that much but we got access to all of it when we started working so we were able to enjoy the nice things. Hopefully we will retire and die before everything turns to shit. The next generation is fucked.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In school, about 20 years ago, we visited a village with a monestary. We slept there. There were a lot of fireflies. I moved to this village 2 years ago. I‘ve yet to see a single firefly.

Heck there’s moments on days when I visit my parents and walk their dog where I can’t even hear a bird.

I drive on the road for 16 years now. Compared to when I started, there aren’t that many insects colliding with me.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

When I was a kid in the 70s dad taught me to always clean the bugs off when stopping for gas. Now I can put in 700 miles across the American South and not clean the windshield once.

That's what got me thinking about all this originally. Saw a picture on reddit years ago, couple of teen girls posing on their 70s hot rod, totally covered in bug guts.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago

But did you know that I think maybe it's natural and not made by humans. The earth just did that, much like the head of JFK

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

some bootstraps will make all that come to life if he would quit being lazy

[–] db2@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Too much avocado.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tbh the boomer generation had a very big voting block and could and did rebel against the powers that were.

They didn't get it all for free at all. Old proto boomers did put up a fight.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No they didn't, they went along with the mono-media - and still do. Due to the size of the bloc nothing will improve until boomers die out and by then it will be to late to change course.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk the biggest protests of the last century happened around Vietnam and later nuclear proliferation. (Where I'm from). Add to that the American Civil rights protests.

Following generations haven't been able to organise protests that come close.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Vietnam war was one of the first wars where unfiltered footage, pictures and reports were available to the public. So people was outraged because it was in the news. This taught the narrative sculptors that such a thing cannot happen again.

Corporate consolidation, editorial control thorough the foundations laid with Operation Mockingbird killed any chance of people being inclined to protest. Unless it's to their benefit - Have you noticed any protests that seem inorganic, more like they're designed and then approved by the media?

These days people are overwhelmed with information so they started narrowing down their news sources with the most obviously propagandising outlets being the first to go. Look at how the legacy media is struggling as their viewers base is slowly dying out.

So now people are free to get outraged about the truth again? No, we're building a new, singular (albeight highly curated) source of truth.

Where people used to say "it's true because I saw it in the news" we're now saying "it's true because AI said it".

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok so you give that the boomer generation protesting changed the way the incumbent proto boomers went about their business.

Which was my point.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

If your argument is that the way the boomers went about the issues only led to it being hid from them, sure - Their actions had effect.

Out of sight, out of mind. And that's why I see no possibility of change before the boomers die out, they are willfully ignorant and the demographic majority until then.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You see the wall? That's AI, AI is our wall with a jungle painted on.

No. Its the tjing that burned the last tree.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 days ago

Damn. This hits hard.