Having body cams on cops was the one of the best decisions we've made as a society in recent years. Not only do they flush out shitty cops like this, but they have also protected good cops from false accusations and violent people. They need to be required everywhere and cops must have them on their entire shifts or they'll face criminal investigations.
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Don't u worry, Trump's on it.
https://www.propublica.org/article/drug-enforcement-administration-ends-body-camera-program-trump
Of course he is. President dipshit is on a mission to make everything worse
“Protecting” yourself with a camera is pretty minimal. If the cop sees the dash cam they can grab it and destroy it. I was going to suggest the ACLU’s mobile justice app, but that got shut down. Anyone got a good app you can record with that can work on a locked phone?
I think the best solutions to problems like this take a sociotechnical approach. That is to say that in this case, I think that a crowd of people recording is more powerful than any app. I live in a country where police violence is less prevalent than in the US, and I have seen times when the police have tried to intimidate someone into stopping recording them. One of those times, it was successful, and the bystander got scared and stopped. Another of those times, someone who was better informed overheard the exchange and whipped out their camera too, and explained that the police had no grounds to ask that, especially given that we weren't interfering with their investigation of the original person.
It is unfortunate about the ACLU app though. Tech tools like that helped protect individuals who were trying to hold the police accountable, which is a useful step towards normalising a healthy suspicion of the police. I haven't read the above article yet, but I suspect the only reason why this footage wasn't destroyed or confiscated is because the cops didn't realise they were being recorded.
We need open source, multi channel dashcams that record to a central box that can be hidden deep inside the car and in times of duress, livestream via a connected smartphone. Press a button, the camera connects to a smartphone and triggers an app. All channels, audio and video, livestream out via the smartphone.
Or skip the cell phone pairing. Keep an eSIM in the recorder and upload it that way. Easier said than done, I suppose.
Except that cops are stupid. Most of them don't delete video evidence most of the time. And destroying the camera itself produces evidence that can and will be used against them. And there's no excuse for taking one out of the car. They are also recording already, and can be quickly voice activated. So dash cams are not minimal.
You should also record on your phone.
Of course dirty cops could do tons of bad things, but the more complicated the cover-up is, the more likely that they get caught.
There are dash cams that upload to a cloud so destroying the camera doesn't destroy the footage as well.
That’s usually a paid subscription feature. People getting pulled over and beaten aren’t always the ones able to afford a subscription. It might be something a few can use.
Yes, yes. Once again they are suggesting we, the people, do all the work, because they are too busy to care about us. We have to do the recycling, because it would be too onerus on the producers of waste to change. We have to do the overseeing of unsafe practices by industry, because it's too costly for the government and hard to ask their friends to stop doing terrible things to save a few dollars. We now also have to protect ourselves from authority, God forbid we ask the government to remain accountable for something. What is the point of having a government if they are not going to do anything but enrich themselves? Are Americans capable of asking questions, or do you just eat what you are fed without even blinking? Wake the fuck up, you don't live in a country, you live in a billionaire making machine, and you are the fuel, not the product.
"Social Democracy" countries like Sweden and Norway produce more millionaires and billionaires than capitalist ones like the US. So actually we're not a billionaire making machine, but a poverty making one.
Sweden and Europe in general has 10 times the generational wealth as America, because it's been around for centuries longer. American wealth came mostly in the past 250 years, and much of it has been accumulated in the past 30.
We made a lot of barons in the slave era, the railroad era, the oil era, the prohibition era, then there was a lull, we got the new deal, and more importantly WW2 and the manufacturing boom where workers had power and socialized wealth (as long as white anyway). Then the barons found a way to weaken and strip our wealth and power since the 80s and set the country up for our current baron crisis.
Maybe a general strike could do something, but it would have to be overwhelming. Like a minimum of 30% of all workers, for weeks or months maybe more, would be necessary to get attention and not be vulnerable to mass firing and replacement.
Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose. Historically this is the requirement for most societies to upend these types of structures. It’s what drove the “New Deal”, which was essentially a stopgap to allow the wealthy an opportunity to comply with the requirements of basic human needs and dignity. Same with Teddy Roosevelt’s trust busting.
After that they allowed some tinkering around the edges to make our enclosure more habitable, things like the Civil Rights Act and even parts of LBJ’s “Great Society”. All the while continuing to exploit foreign markets and people for our industries, consolidating economic and military power around the globe. Now, not only have all the lines in the map been filled in, but we are starting to see conglomeracies like BRICS form in order to subvert the total dominance of the United States.
The only way for the wealthy business interests to maintain their profit margins was to turn the exploitation inward, to subject the American people to the same type of exploitation they have been meting out in the global south, while desperately enacting last minute and insufficient plans to suppress these rising entities and eliminate them if possible.
The rot has reached the core
This kind of police brutality needs to be a capital offense. We need to start hanging these pigs. Abusing your authority to this level is a crime on the level of treason. You absolutely deserve to die if you do this to another human being.
Start with taking away their qualified immunity...
The death penalty might be a bit extreme, however, I am in favour of a dystopian tournament where these cunts have to face a series of increasingly dangerous tasks in order to be provided with food.
Could call it Pig Game.
How is it extreme? They have literally beaten black people and minorities to death for years. But if you want to kill one single cop for doing this it is all of a sudden too extreme? Wtf.
Tattoo their previous police badge to their forehead, throw them into three general population, and call it a day.
The government should not take away anything that it cannot provide. It can't make life so it should not take it.
I have long been a proponent for mandatory and severe sentencing guides/augments for public officials who violate their oath and duty.
So I agree with you whole heartedly.
While I agree that this should be a severe offence that removes the perpetrator permanently from any employment from city to federal, killing people just brings you down to their level.
I have no problem holding police officers to a higher standard of behavior than the general populace.
The death penalty is an abomination. No.
I get the sentiment, and share it to a large degree, but death penalty? WTF?
The traditional penalty for treason is death by hanging, at best. This is treason against the most fundamental values of what our nation is supposed to stand for. If you do this kind of thing, you have committed an unforgivable offense against everything this nation is supposed to stand for. If you're a police officer that flagrantly violates someone's rights, you should hang for it. If you're a police officer that plants evidence on someone, you should hang for it. If you're a police officer that shoots an innocent person, you should hang for it.
I have zero problem with holding police officers to a much higher standard that regular citizens. They want to go around calling themselves "officer?" Fine. I have no problem holding them to a brutal system of military justice. Make them earn their titles for a change.
I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm not disagreeing with how unacceptable, reprehensible and un-fucking-ethical police behaviour is: the Police suck and are, in many cases, an unfixable organisation.
I'm disagreeing with the death penalty.
The fact that it's traditional is entirely irrelevant and, at worst, an appeal to tradition.
End the death penalty.
And it shouldn't exist for the regular citizen. But those we imbue with power should be held to a higher standard. There should absolutely be harsher, even stark penalties for those that abuse the power we imbue them with.
Yup, there are AMAZING videos of people who use the app Attorney Shield that immediately puts you in contact with a lawyer, starts recording video and audio and blocks the device so their only option is to smash it to stop recording.
It feels like an "anti tyranny" insurance of sorts, you pay what? $200 a year? and you use it even on traffic stops because there's absolutely and I mean ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT TO COOPERATING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, embrace and exercise your rights and then go to court.
What the distopian fuck
TBF, this kind of thing has probably been needed since the inception of police, it's just now that we have the technology.
ACAB
There's endless reasons why the last decade+ has pushed me to being completely done with authority worship. Fuck you and your fucking badge. Fuck these pigs. If you're a cop, you should just fucking quit or drop dead. Fuck police. Fuck security. Fuck military. Fuck em all. Countless times we have seen this is a profession that seeks, attracts, and breeds the most vile pieces of scum.
If you're a cop or were a cop, go fuck yourself and fuck your precinct and fuck your family and fuck your friends.
I have never needed a cop in my entire life. I have never found myself in a situation where a cop would have helped. They HAVE however found themselves in MY life a handful of times making the interaction AS FUCKING NEEDLESSLY INTENSE AS POSSIBLE. I have never done drugs, don't drink, came from an affluent family, and got a degree and became a productive member of society and do not visually come off as any sort of minority or profiled group. Yet even I have personally witnessed how fucking aggressive cops are abojt ANY fucking interaction no matter how mundane, and I know countless people personally who have experienced far worse than I did.
Fuck the police. Every fucking one of them.
You might even say ACAB
It's really trippy to reflect back on my pre-ACAB days. I recognised that the ways things currently work is far from just, but I was still in the "surely not all cops" mode of thinking; even if I understood how much of this injustice is a systemic problem. Whilst it was several years ago now, it still feels recent enough that I am baffled at how misguided I was to hold the beliefs I did and still consider myself anti-ACAB
I remember vividly that one day, it occurred to me that if ACAB seemed excessive and unreasonable a to me, that perhaps I was operating on incorrect assumptions about what ACAB actually meant (because me being wrong surely is more likely than everyone who says ACAB either being deeply misguided, or inflammatory edgelords). This led to me googling "why ACAB is right" and finding a lot of things that made sense to me.
I don't know where I'm going with this. I think perhaps my overall point is roughly that I think it's good to label these things with ACAB, where appropriate, because whilst the acronym itself doesn't have much explanatory power, it is useful as a distillation of a bunch of beliefs about the justice system that are actually somewhat commonly held. It makes me think of the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". Years ago, I was a silly horse who complained of thirst while standing next to water; sometimes it's useful to say "dude, you're literally standing in water".