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[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 110 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

He's right on so much

I think he only missed on some LGBT stuff once right

[–] Amos@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah don't ask Chen about trans people.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, Absurd Ominous Clown is a bit of a miss. That's just not very good.

Awful Obvious Chauvinist? I welcome other suggestions.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 102 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Lol she called Rashida Talib a neo nazi

[–] Mousy@hexbear.net 74 points 2 weeks ago

Anaconda Ocasio-Cortez hisssssss

[–] TheRogueKitten@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

She called a PALESTINIAN American whose people are being deleted by a genocidal regime a Neo Nazi...

agony

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[–] erik@hexbear.net 85 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The whole debacle shows how she just doesn't have the juice for this. She voted against the amendment to remove Israeli military funding, essentially saying that funding should stay in the bill. Then she votes against the bill writ-large, essentially voting against the funding she voted to keep. She wants to play this 9-D chess and is then shocked when people are, in her mind, easily misinformed or misled by bad actors. Doesn't inspire confidence even from a politicsball perspective, let alone a leftist one.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

She has surrounded herself the consultant class that keeps the democrats a party of professional losers.

I suspect because she was such an early (and young) hail-mary win that she found herself in the capitol with literally no socialist institution to advise or staff her office. So she filled out other office with a bunch office with the wokest progressive consultants that were flocking to her. From there you get crying photo-ops at ICE facilities and this sort of dumbass triangulation.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

It's right because I think there is a legitimate issue of socialists (including/primarily democratic socialists) winning power, but not having the skills to govern. Liberals campaign and sometimes win on "having experience". It's true that they know what they need to do to keep the government functioning, but they are nonetheless very experienced at running the government under liberal principles.

It is good, actually to run for and win municipal and local seats because you learn a lot. Ideally you aren't the only socialist in the building though, so you can build out some footholds and mentor incoming comrades. It doesn't make a revolution, but it means that "after the revolution" there will be somebody who knows the basics of what's what.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

It shows that she's either really bad at feeling out where the wind is blowing, or is overestimating her capacity to change public sentiment against genocide.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People are saying I shit my pants, but in fact I failed to prevent myself from shitting my pants. there is a difference.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She is a sitting US congresswoman posting like I was at 14 in middle school.

Almost as pathetic as anything jaby-vance posts

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

All it was missing was a picture of her dabbing in shutter shades

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lol what a pathetic attempt at misdirection. We know exactly what you did, and now you're calling your colleges Nazis, not beating the fascist allegations kid.

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago

step one: misrepresent people dragging you for not voting for a reduction in defense spending for israel, saying they are lying by claiming you "voted for military funding" a thing they did not claim you did

step two: "attach receipts" as proof that you didn't do the thing that they didn't say you did. coincidentally, this proof (your nay vote on the mtg amendment) is the thing you are being dragged for. neat trick!

step three: call 'somebody' a neo-nazi. it isn't clear who. mtg? your critics? the left? people in the comments will ask

end result: twenty feet deeper into the weeds

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago

I voted no, which clearly means I didn't vote for military spendingsmuglord

She should just stop, this shit is embarrassing.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago

How long till she social-democracy posts next to a mass grave?

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Millennial politics is just going to sound like obscure YouTuber/twitch drama thread isn’t it?

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

We're already there dude, and worse yet even. Look at literally anything libertarian-approaching says.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is she claiming she voted no for MTGs amendment to the DoD budget but also voted no to the budget as a whole?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She's just obfuscating the criticism by defending against a weaker argument. Some people may have been implying that she voted yes on the bill as a whole, but she voted no. This is burying the lede that she voted no on the amendment that would've stopped Iron Dome funding.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly think she was too scared to vote with MTG on anything meaning she cares more about her personal image than Palestine. The amendment was clearly a protest vote and she didn't show up when Tlaib and Omar did. Voting against the DoD budget as a whole is basically a protest vote.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good to see that she's borrowing from Israel's playbook and calling everyone opposed to genocide "nazis." I'm sure there'll be 0 blowback from watering down terms like "nazi" and "anti-Semite" this much.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

She’s calling MTG a nazi. MTG is a fucking nazi

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Calling MTG a Nazi is reasonable. Refusing to sign on to her bill because it's insufficient and you want to propose one that is sufficient and doesn't carry the baggage of such a despicable representative would also be reasonable. What would be unreasonable would be calling the rhetorical Nazi out for Nazism while giving the actual Nazis weapons to continue their ongoing Nazi genocide and congratulating yourself for being so brave.

The ideologically committed psychos like the entire Republican party, Schumer, Biden, etc can reasonably defend their argument. Some of them agree with Jewish supremacy over Arabs and like the fact that they're killing them. Some of them just don't give a shit about the Muslims over there and are cool with giving Israel a blank check to continue projecting American hegemony into the Middle East. These positions are patently evil but ideologically consistent. AOC and those like her cannot defend their positions. "What they are doing over there is morally wrong but there's nothing we can do about it and when someone brings up the thing you can definitely do about it I'm going to attack them personally to deflect from my own moral failing in refusing to engage with the issue." That's some shoot and cry bullshit and it deserves zero defense.

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[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know who that is, I assume a republican senator or something (I'm not American)

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Marjorie Taylor Greene is a republican congresswoman who is willfully ignorant, anti-vaccines, anti-abortion, and openly bigoted. MTG believes conspiracy theories like George Soros and Bill Gates were funding Jewish space lasers to kill people, which is why people were dying (not covid). She's peddled Pizzagate, neo-nazi white genocide/great replacement, Holocaust denial, accused children who survived school shootings of being crisis actors, and does crossfit exercises really, really poorly.

Her district in Georgia is known for being a hotbed of KKK activity.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, I do know who that is then, I just didn't recognise the acronym.

So then AOC's argument is that neo-nazis are bad, so we need to let them just do whatever they want, because that's "democracy." Got it.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

MTG is also a fortnite cardgame that used to be good ~20 years ago

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[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

This is some John Kerry "actually I voted for it before I voted against it" shit

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

so the whole bill including iron dome was bad, but excluding iron dome from bad bill is also bad, therefore pure iron dome is good? negation

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

pass a clean iron dome bill!

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 2 weeks ago

I know where I stand.

on a pile of corpses

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My record on Epstein speaks for itself. I'm proud of it, very proud. One of the strongest presidents! I throw down for anti-cabal candidates—largely unrecognized work. That's fine! Disagreements are fine too! But if you want to toss all that for 1 half assed Clinton stunt, BE MY GUEST! I know where I stand! trump-anguish

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Lol she’s unraveling

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[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

She's just drama farming at this point

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

besides that shes literally saying she wishes to supply the iron dome which is not only technically military funding but also military funding as the layperson would understand it there is a very simple concept that in doing so you are enabling the genocide by providing material aid to israel which puts them in a better strategic position to carry out the genocide jfc

[–] Goblin@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

chicanery

I am not fascist! I know they swapped those voting records! I knew it was a NO vote. One after October 7th. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. They – they covered their tracks, they got those idiots at twitter to lie for them. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? They've done worse. That election! Are you telling me that Trump just happens to win like that? No! They orchestrated it! Tankies! They defended a terrorist group! And I saved them! And I shouldn't have. I took them into my own campaign! What was I thinking? They'll never change. They'll never change! Ever since they were literate, always the same! Couldn't keep their hands out of the palestine movement! But not our tankies! Couldn't be precious tankies! Stealing them blind! And They get to be a movement!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped them when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-

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[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

The threat environment

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago
[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Once again, the supposedly "good guys and girls" of the American empire are showing they are all 100% in accord with all the rest and any negotiation is impossible.

[–] Leegh@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I haven't seen anyone here post about this yet, but some online leftists picked up on a little piece of AOC's history that has gone under everyone's radar until recently; after her graduation in 2011 but before her ascendency to Congress in 2018, she used to work for a venture capitalist firm called GAGEis (also known as Gage Strategies) owned by 2 Israeli-Americans where she actively engaged in and promoted entrepreneurial activities.

While under this tutelage, she also founded HER OWN ENTERPRISE called the Brook Avenue Press, which according to AOC's biography in Boston University that is still publicly available, is "a social enterprise dedicated to providing relevant educational products to children and parents in urban areas.”. I'll let you guys decide what the "educational products" entails.

The Times of Israel actually wrote an article about this back in 2020 as well.

Neither of these career positions are mentioned in AOC's official biography in the US House of Representatives website.

Let this be the final nail in the coffin for AOC's "leftist" veneer, and a lesson to all of you here that any Democrat that ever tries to pose as a "Democratic Socialist", that fights for the working people, should be viewed with EXTREME scepticism and not the naive optimism that many on this site and its predecessor subreddit have perpetuated for years. Zohran Mamdani included.

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[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

im just buying them the gun. its not my fault if they shoot you with it.

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