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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder how hard to the right he’s going to tack to get the DNC to not be like “oooh, brown man scary! 👻“

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 month ago

Aaaand...the inevitable pivot to the center, commences.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 37 points 1 month ago

No, please don’t be a disappointment.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (45 children)

Eyes on the ball, it's the policies that matter. If we start seeing watering down of the policies, shoot away, but this on its own means little.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Goddammit can't we have a true progressive for once in a position of real power. Why the fuck is he doing this? See this what happens when we feel hope.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I'm still holding onto hope but damn.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let the guy govern for a month before giving up. New Yorkers should pressure him from the left, not just sit back and let the right do it's thing

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

New Yorkers should pressure him from the left,

Just get biden in office and you can pressure him from the left! look at what he's running on!

All the deliberately broken promises and the genocide support later and you're asking us to buy the same unmitigated bullshit again.

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  1. President and NY Mayor are very different in terms of how much they can be pressured. The right & establishment are fighting, why won't you?

  2. Biden was always a shit, especially on Gaza, so the horizon was different from explicitly demsoc + antizionist Mamdani. Even still, there are pretty major differences between biden and trump on domestic policy.

  3. Right now there is a swell of hope and energy on the left bc of the Mamdani campaign -- lay the groundwork there to build a durable movement that won't be demobilized after the election. Get people into mutual aid, ice resistance, abolitionist, etc groups!

Look, no politician is going to embody real change, but we know Cuomo will be a much bigger obstacle. pressuring, as you point out, only goes so far, but you have to start from where you are and develop a movement inch by inch.

It's psychologically easier to be cynical, but it also helps your enemies win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't have the energy to properly respond to this. I don't have any reason to be positive about anything anymore. After decades of betrayal, this is the last one. Fuck politics. Centrists and their republican besties have made positive change completely impossible and your positivity here sickens me.

You've mistaken despair for cynicism.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Well, it was nice having hope for a few weeks.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 month ago

Feeling like that Star wars "you were the chosen one!!" meme

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Can Mamdani fire the establishment goon later? If so, it could be a smart strategic move to qwell the DNC and win his general election.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Don't fucking compromise.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

I should have known better than to believe something good could happen.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least we’re starting negotiations on policy from the left instead of the center.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

But we're still pre-negotiating, preparatory to rank capitulation like fucking always.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There it is. They compromised him.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think its more they appointed a saboteur who will leak some kind of fake bullshit right before the election. The Jeremy Corbyn playbook is still what they're using so I expect a huge email antisemitism scandal or something created by DNC insiders.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It is my sincere hope that Jeffrey Lerner and his DNC affiliates all get a swift kick in the balls after this election is over.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mamdani about to find out how fast we will throw him at the wayside when he sides with the establishment.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Because then we'll get someone better, right?

Someone better then.... Right?

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Nah, Obama got reelected after stabbing us all in the back. Mamdani will be fine, even after his conservative heel turn.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago
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