Weed vapes are healthy tho right? :/
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Fuck, how difficult could it be to create a system that heats water above evaporation temperature without releasing toxic metals in the process. Incredible.
*New study shows one brand of disposable vapes causes higher lead exposure than cigarettes
PLEASE stop using disposable vapes.
I quit cigarettes 10 yrs ago and had been exclusively using the old school refillable box mods. The kinds with big clouds, not the nic salts like disposables. I was doing fine, great even, for the last ten.
But this past year, after picking up those disposables, I kept having breathing problems. I would stop using them for like two weeks before I picked them up again. The cycle finally led to me going into atrial fibrillation, a cardiac emergency. Had to have my heart shocked. in my 30s!
I ended up quitting nicotine entirely now. it was surprisingly easy to quit! once you wanna do it, it's already done. as long as you don't mope about it and celebrate it instead. it's easier than the whiners would have you believe!
Plus those disposables create massive amounts of e-waste.
My grandfather wakes up in the hospital after his third heart attack. The Doc comes over and says "you'll need to stop smoking or else" and my grandad asked "or else what?" The Doc leaned forward and stared him dead in the eyes "Sudden death"
Apparently it worked. He said he never smoked after that
After i read "sudden death" in the smash announcer voice, i thought your grandpa was going to smack his doctor
Wow, congratulations for quitting. And thank you for spreading the message.
Can I ask: What caused you to go from refillable box to disposable? And what is the draw to them?
Great question. I used both concurrently. The reason for the disposable: accessibility.
The old school vapes are just getting harder and harder to find. I had to order parts online. The juice companies were getting shut down. I didn't want to give up my addiction, and I felt so much better on vapes than i had on cigarettes, so I figured it was fine. (Nicotine alone is a bitch to your heart, though...)
I started trying out the disposables because they were readily available. I could pick one up anywhere, I didn't have to bring juice around with me, no giant batteries or kits to maintain on the go... and in exchange a much harsher hit.
this also led to me doubling my nicotine strength. I had been using 3mg juice for ovet a year by then, but all the disposables measure out to 6mg. Nothing weaker was available. had to switch to stronger stuff on the box mod.
it pisses me off how much they enshittified vaping. it was a really cool and helpful tool that got me off of tobacco. but they started targeting it at minors. instead of rich savory flavors you get all this fruity menthol crap that middle schoolers like. you get tiny vapes with flashy blinking light and fixed high potency. you get bans on it, and regulations/fees so strict that indie vape companies that started this shit for people like me now have to shut down.
oh well. it was all a facade anyway. nicotine itself is the problem. it pushes your systems into overdrive and then wears you out on seconds, until you cant even be at homeostasis without nicotine in your system. the joy of smoking is just the temporary relief of withdrawal. it's like wearing a pair of tight shoes just so you can enjoy taking them off for 5 minutes. I'm done living my life in withdrawals. so happy to be free! (and it was honestly fucking easy, you all can do it too)
I've been vaping type 2 cannabis for several years with a dry herb vaporizer. It's great, I have these small cartridges that I fill with herb and that's good for me for a session. It's a relatively low THC hit but it's perfect for me.
A few months ago I went to a dispensary in a neighboring state and picked up a disposable THC vape pen. It is really cool and convenient, but it can fuck. you. up. With the dry herb you've gotta pull on it very hard, especially the first hit... and that's how I hit the disposable the first time. Ruined my night.
They're worse in one particular way, which isn't the most significant way that cigarettes cause harm. They're not worse overall. Vaping has been a major public-health success story, and it's odd to see people trying to discourage it with misleading headlines. The perfect is the enemy of the good here.
Yeah, i agree with you.
Just, tell me if i understand this correctly, please:
- The part of cigarettes that makes you addicted is nicotine, and the psychological habit of "smoking one" as a social ritual.
- However, nicotine is not really dangerous to your health. The smoke is what's damaging your lungs. Smoke contains half-burnt chemicals, that are acidic and corrosive, and that damages your lungs.
- Vaping uses (water) vapor instead of smoke, and since vapor is not as acidic or corrosive, it's less dangerous for your health.
- Vapes still make you addicted though, because they contain nicotine, and that's why you have to buy them over-and-over again, which means you still have the economic disadvantage of spending significant money on them.
Yeah except smoking rates have increased since the invention of vapes. It if was strickly people smoking cigarettes swapping to vapes then maybe we could call it a success
I think people might smoke more in total because people are stressed out more?
I don't have a study on this, but from my personal environment, i can attest that people seem to be more stressed-out, and more worried, about work and wages than 20 years ago. But i could be wrong here. Maybe it's just that i'm getting older and paying more attention to these things now.
Anyways, "more stress" would explain why people smoke more. To many, it seems to have a stress-relieving functionality, at the cost of long-term health disadvantages.
I admit I don't see people vaping as a major problem. The harm is not so severe that it overcomes my inclination to let people make their own choices. This is especially so when the harm is not intrinsic to the act but rather the result of contamination.
You can always count on the tobacco companies to turn a useful tool into something evil.
You can always count on the ~~tobacco companies~~ massive corporations to turn a useful tool into something evil.
They’re also a worse pollutant. Policies that favor disposable vapes over refillable ones are a travesty but ultimately disposable vapes are far more profitable for big tobacco.
And they’re talking about cheap Chinese gas station vapes here. If you use quality coils, there won’t be lead at all.
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Since the toxins are transmitted via the aerosols: can there something be said about the effect on involuntary "passive smokers"?
The researchers tested flavored and “clear” versions of three of the most popular products — Esco Bar, Flum Pebble, and ELF Bar — and found “excessive emissions of toxic metallic elements” in the aerosols from each of them.
All three of which are from the same company. I'm not seeing any information there about where these are manufactured, but if I guessed China, I probably wouldn't be wrong.
How are they from the same company? To me it looks like different companies
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if you're hooked on nicotine and you havent tried them, then give nicotine pouches a try. i switched to them from vaping and all the asthma went away overnight. plus no one knows when you've got one under your lip
Everyone knows when you have one under your lip
ok. i've never been asked to "go outside to nicotine pouch" so whatever
Hey man can I bum a pouch?
lol didn't even think about that--another bonus of the pouches. since no one knows you're using them (but seriously, no one fucking knows you've got one under your lip), then no one knows who to go up to and beg one from.
i miss smoking, but do not miss that shit
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To help put things in perspective, the researchers compared the health risks of disposable e-cigarettes to other types of smoking, and found that Esco Bar devices released more lead during a day’s use than 19 packs of traditional cigarettes.
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