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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Reminds me of history, when nazi germany and imperial japan would perform "reprisals", basically, they would arbitrally round up random non-combatants, most of them who aren't even resistance, and shoot them to death in "execution" style in public, as a way to "punish" resistance activities.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Fascism.

Arm yourselves.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, The News is giving us exhaustive coverage of a billionaire wedding, because some people are just better than we are.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I wonder how much of that is about ginning up outrage and then directing that energy at "liberals", because something something "Bezos owns WashPo".

I saw the same thing when people are/were ginning up anger at "Big Tech" (with Zuck standing in as the poster boy for this, gee, I wonder why the right wing/corporate media would do this) because something something liberals in California and my "free speech".

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 85 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's always been a significant portion of American society that would have much preferred if the US would have intervened in WW2 on behalf of the Nazi instead of the allies. Imo that subsect of our population has never really changed in their belief, they just moderated their language to make their beliefs more digestible.

The amazing thing to me is that Communism has consistently been a dog whistle for these people for generations, being a substitute for a plethora of slurs aimed at a plethora of different people.

They are now attempting to utilize the same defunct laws that their grandparents made to strip away what little power we the people still have. Strange that there are laws against communist political parties but not against fascism.....the actual people we engaged in a totalitarian war against.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Never forget that in 1939 the second biggest Nazi party in the world was in America. Massive rally at Madison Square Garden, etc.

The official line was that John Wayne didn't get sent to Europe to fight because he was more valuable to the war effort boosting morale in the home front. The secret reason was that they weren't quite sure which direction he'd be shooting.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

A country founded on genocide and explicit principle of setting up free market, is against even slight implementation of common sense policy of affordable education and healthcare.

Colour me shocked.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I heard once that the main reason why the US helped the Allies instead of the Axis was that they stood to make bank on the restoration of Europe if the Allies did win.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These idiots are going to go over every aspect of his personal life until they find something that they can potentially throw at him in court, then try to arrest him and tie him up in the judicial system like they’re doing to Kilmar.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Hopefully he’s never worn a tan suit

[–] scott@lemmy.org 111 points 1 day ago (5 children)

On the one hand, it's always concerning to see the rise of threats to imprison political opposition.

On the other hand, this is a pivotal moment. This is one of those things that you could lift straight from Andor or the Martian Revolution series or any other radical fiction because it's just cookie-cutter dropped in to so many revolutions of history that it just almost has to happen. The milquetoast electoral reformer gains some success in the light of the horrors of the authoritarian regime, the regime loses its shit and responds with an over-the-top militant reaction, which in turn triggers an actual militant defense capable of breaking the stalemate of liberalism.

In other words, for those of us who want revolution in some form or another, who see the American empire and all empires as systems of oppression, they're playing right into our hands with this response, assuming New Yorkers & Angelinos and other Americans are capable of effective resistance.

One must hope. For the earth. For mankind.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

nice name you got there ;)

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

State terrorism: a critical tool for the Nazis

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

"We are all domestic terrorists"

They already told us who they are.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I notice they didn't shit their pants epiplectic over Hakeem Jeffries winning anything. Guess we know who we gotta throw our weight behind.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago

Democracy: exists for one second

Republicans: violently shitting their adult diapers

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These stunads have never been to NY. They really don’t realize the clout they’re giving Zohran by doing this.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

So, the gambit of authoritarian regimes in those situations is: If you see an opposition leaving controlled status and gaining popularity, and you know that suppressing that popularity (at their home) is hard, the main course of action is beating it down, brutally. Thought you could put hope into a candidate of your own choosing as people? Well, we will just put him into a prison and/or deport him, and/or terrorise you with blunt force, while telling everyone outside your group, that you are part of the evil to be defeated.

If that works or backfires on them heavily depends on conviction and organisation of the (working class) people of New York. So if you are part of that, don't let yourself be intimidated, and be prepared for some fucked up suppression attempts. (best way of preparing is joining with organisations and networking with friends and neighbours for mutual aid and independent communication/info networks when shit hits the fan.)

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New Yorkers don’t give a fuck about other New Yorkers unless they’re in the shit. You fuck with one of us, you fuck with all of us. This is literally the best thing Republicans could do to lock Mamdani’s win.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Yeah I think that's one of the things people that don't always get.

Like you walk down the street and no one's going to say hi to you, or engage with you much at all. People think that means we're unfriendly. No, it's more that we see ten thousand people every day and there's no way to engage with all of them. Some of them don't even have a shared language.

But if someone needs help? People step up. I saw a lady trip and fall down the stairs at the subway and a whole lot of people fake running over to make sure she was okay. Bike accident? Lots of people that had been in the background suddenly were helping.

People aren't perfect. I saw a guy screaming at a woman he was with and no one stepped in, but I like to think there's a line past which more people would intervene.

edit: fix autocomplete error

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

We’re kind but not nice. LA is nice but not kind.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's this guy Rafael "Cancun" Cruz in Texas that should be deported too.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Good use of his non preferred name. After al he doesn't believe their use.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And it sounds like mainstream Democrats are aligning with Republicans on this. What a surprise!

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Nothing makes a Democrat show their true colors quicker than the scent of socialism.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And THERE'S the key that EVERYONE should take away from this.

Every time Socialism comes close to winning on a national platform, the Democrats scuttle it like they're a fuckin U-boat. This is the problem. This is why they're not our allies, they're the controlled opposition of the fascist party.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

I disagree. The KEY that everyone should take away from this is VOTE IN THE MOTHAFUCKIN PRIMARIES. That’s how NYC elected a democratic socialist candidate to the Democratic Party. Progressives run all the time, but primaries are largely decided by retirees. They’re the reason we always get centrists.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes! What the Dems have been is history. What voters make it is the future. That’s what primaries are for. So imagine what you want them to stand for and vote for the candidates that fit that vision.

Everyone should vote in their primaries, even if they can’t make the general. Your vote is higher impact there than in the general election for a few reasons:

  1. The folks who usually vote in the primaries, bless ‘em, are not good at picking winners
  2. Participation tends to be so low that it doesn’t take many additional votes to elect progressives
  3. Progressives are MAGA kryptonite; people will actually show up for them in the general.

Also voting in primaries is easier, since early voting can often be completed digitally or by mail. You don’t have to take off work. And if you vote in person, you don’t have to be registered beforehand. Just show up to your polling center and they’ll have you fill out a special affidavit ballot that’s submitted in an envelope with your registration info.

Vote in your primaries people.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the Establishment Dems are nearly as pissed off as the MAGAs. If the Nazis come for Zohran, don't expect the Dems to offer any help.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

Eugene Debs Two, Electric Boogaloo?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (17 children)

New Yorkers are literally the last people I would try threatening, let alone actually trying to "round up."

They don't have time for that shit

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