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The 3 that come to mind for me are Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and The Princess Bride. All three are poking fun at their respective genres but also are great examples of the genre. I'm curious if Lemmy has other such examples.

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[-] Edlak@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago
[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

There is a curse in the Star Trek movies where every other movie in the franchise is terrible. The first one is bad, the second is good, the third is bad, and so on. This almost fits perfectly, but it inverts from the 10th movie onwards. The 9th is bad, the 10th is bad, the 11th is decent, the 12th is bad...

However, if you add Galaxy Quest into the line up, then it's the good Star Trek movie between the 9th and 10th, and the pattern holds.

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[-] Riker_Maneuver@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

It's legitimately one of the best Star Trek movies.

[-] SoNick@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I still say "Never give up! Never surrender!" occasionally to this day

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scream was incredibly meta. It references plenty of slasher films and even has one character talking about the rules of slasher films.

While it's not exactly a parody, it does poke fun at its own genre a lot.

[-] mindbleach@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Scream is the perfect answer. It was a response to the waning 80s slasher boom, making it all more real, more visceral, and more of a threat to the savvy audience, while still being funny as hell. Comedy and horror go beautifully together. There's a shared tension with the unknown.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Scream is the perfect answer because Scary Movie didn't get the joke and assumed it was a normal slasher, so they tried to make a parody of it.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

The Orville. Homage more than parody I'd say.

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Better Star Trek than a lot of actual Star Trek

[-] yukichigai@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

After watching Season 2 of The Orville I'm of the opinion that Seth MacFarlane should be put in charge of the next mainline Star Trek series. The man truly gets Roddenberry's vision.

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[-] Zebov@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Tucker and Dale vs Evil. Criminally underrated

[-] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That's a great call. I forgot about that movie. That is a good take on a slasher while also making fun of the genre.

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[-] akincisor@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago
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[-] flicker@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

Austin Powers was such a good spoof of the genre that it killed the genre it was spoofing (for a little while). It was also a great movie in its own right!

To this day I'll say "There you are!" And if someone asks if they know me, or if I was looking for them, or any number of things, I'll say, "No, but there you are! You're there!"

[-] mindbleach@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

So a deconstruction / reconstruction shuffle. A work picking apart the tropes of a genre, making you question them... and then putting them back together in ways suited to a self-aware audience.

One Punch Man looks like a decent example. The premise is a rebuke of who-is-stronger anime, like the endless power-level treadmill of Dragonball Z. The main dude is stronger. Next question. And the next question is, well, what does a setting with assorted superheroes and supervillains look like, if there's some guy who is unbeatable 1v1, but is otherwise just some guy? Does society support him, after he's basically relegated to an occasional "come save our asses" phone call? How do other supers proceed with their equally-cliche motivations, when SSJ4 Goku showed up in episode one?

Shaun Of The Dead is definitely a reconstruction of zombie tropes - timed right at the crest of the 2000s zombie-movie revival. But Hot Fuzz is a little odd to mention here because it's actually three distinct genres. It goes from screwball comedy to murder mystery to blockbuster action without missing a beat. Ironically I'd say the weakest part is the screwball comedy at the beginning. It's very sedate compared to what it almost was: there's a deleted scene where Angel did Word-art banners for each department, ending on rainbow lettering reading "sexual assault." The opening we got is held-back to ease the later shifts in theme. And while each of these shifts is truly masterful, I'm not sure I'd call the movie as a whole a great example of anything it riffed on.

Really - does it fit any movie marathon that would unironically include Point Break?

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[-] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

A bit older than the Orville, Red Dwarf was the original satire of Star Trek turned into a legitimate Sci-Fi show a la Star Trek.

I enjoyed it a lot, at least the original seasons. Never watched the later ones they added thirty or so years later.

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[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

Everybody is talking about movies so here's some books: Discworld by Terry Pratchett started as a parody of the fantasy genre but evolves into one of the richest fantasy worlds you'll even have the pleasure to read.

[-] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I've been considering reading these books. This might just be the thing that pushes me to start.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Just to let you know, Pratchett's writing improves massively over the series. This means, if you read it in chronological order, you start with the least good books (Colour of magic, and light fantastic).

There are multiple story arcs, however, that can be read semi-independently. The "Witches" arc, or "City guards" arc are an easier in point for many people.

I personally read them in chronological order. I knew the earliest books wouldn't be as good, so got to watch his writing improve, and the world crystallise. I knew about the slow start however, and so wasn't put off by the "average" level writing, at the start.

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[-] moobythegoldensock@geddit.social 33 points 1 year ago

Glee. It started out as a parody of musicals and high school dramas in Season 1. Then went on to be a musical high school drama for the rest of the show.

The Simpsons started out as a parody of sitcoms and has since become the longest running sitcom.

The 1960s Batman was a campy satire of comics and itself influenced comic adaptations for decades after.

[-] SangriaFerret@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Pretty much every Mel Brooks movie

[-] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I love Mel Brooks movies, but I think they're just straight spoofs. For example Blazing Saddles while great and did such a great job skewering Westerns that it has been argued it killed the genre, it just isn't a Western in it's own right.

[-] ValiantDust@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

It's been a while since I watched it, but I think Kingsman fits that description.

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[-] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

James Bond. Ian Fleming wrote a series of novels parodying spy novels, and they've turned into one of the best spy movie franchises, with no hint of parody left.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Though when I go back and watch the Pierce Brosnan movies, it’s obvious they’re a parody.

What’s weird is how serious they seemed in the 90s when they came out. But they’re so silly.

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[-] ass-destroyer@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

I'll add Kick Ass and Starship Troopers. Although very different movies I feel like they both satirize their respective genres to great dramatic effect and stand out as some of my favorites.

[-] SoNick@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Starship Troopers is weird because the book went full on in embracing the military-industrial complex and was kind of shit because of it. The movie made it a parody instead and it worked great!
...then they made a few sequels that yeah were more in line with the original book but in this case is that really a good thing?

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago
[-] SoNick@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I came here to comment Sir Terry Pratchett's works as well! They're all really good while also poking fun at fantasy tropes

[-] acaleyn@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Hot Fuzz is what I came here to suggest - it's the best ACWATNOBI (A Cop With A Theory No One Believes In) spoof/film ever.

I also think Cabin in the Woods did a great job balancing spoof (or at least meta) with actual horror.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

This Is Spinal Tap.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The Cabin in the Woods is pretty good. It tells an interesting story while still hitting its marks to be a "college kids getting picked off by the supernatural far from civilization" horror movie parody.

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[-] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The unbearable weight of massive talent, with Nic Cage.

Night & Day, with Tom Cruise.

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[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago
[-] lovethewolfgirl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Tucker and Dale Vs Evil. Starts fine and eventually becomes a horror. It's great.

[-] anolemmi@lemmi.social 14 points 1 year ago
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[-] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Starship Troopers

DO YOU APES WANNA LIVE FOREVER!?

[-] HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The Venture Bros is the only superhero adjacent anything I give a shit about. Greatest adult animation show ever. Making fun of comic books and old Hannah Barbara cartoons but better and more rich and consistent than any of them.

[-] boop_lord@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm surprised The Big Lebowski hasn't been mentioned at all.

[-] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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[-] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

While it's not a direct parody I think The Nice Guys used and subverts a lot of 70s buddy cop tropes.

And after rewatching that trailer I found it refreshing to see it didn't spoil the story and didn't have any BWAAAAAAAAAH

[-] Ninjajosh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

JFC in this thread: People who don't know what a parody is.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

One Punch Man

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

After many seasons, it turned out that Joss Whedon was secretly the Big Bad.

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