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[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

does anyone actually buy this bullshit propaganda? the admin is arm-to-arm with Israel in everything they're doing. If Israel violates the supposed ceasefire it's because it was planned/allowed by the US.

it's the same bullshit Biden did for an entire year while Israel launched a campaign of genocide against Gaza. they'd leak fake memos about how "biden is upset" and "biden is mad at Netanyahu" while signing off to all of it.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Big agree, way too many people are far too credulous about this. The US didn't move a shitton of military assets to the Middle East because Israel is "out of control"

[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 11 points 18 hours ago

yep. even the bullshit ceasefire. it's only to give Israel time to rearm it's various iron dome defense systems. once rearmed/resupplied they're going right back to bombing iran while trump pretends to be mad about it

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He’s a narcissist. Not in the vibes sense that most people use it, but in the clinical sense. They’ll turn on their flying monkeys at the drop of a hat. It doesn’t mean the US has split from Israel, but this isn’t the fake Brandon anger.

Brandon was covering himself in Crisco listening to “Subhuman” by Throbbing Gristle on repeat, pretending to be pissed off. Trump is fuming. He’ll get over it.

[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

idk. i generally disagree. trump is fuming in public because he has to convince his base he's the same "no new wars" president they voted for. meanwhile he both filled his admin up with iran war hawks and is regularly getting briefed / signing off on everything Israel is doing

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago

I was kinda hoping you’d disagree with my song or lube choice. Does nobody care what Biden was doing while pretending to be pissed off?

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 2 points 16 hours ago

Obviously, I don’t know, either, but I do know that when a narcissist wants something to go a certain way and it doesn’t, they lose it. They’ll still do pretty much everything Israel wants, but I don’t think Trump is pretending to be upset.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 67 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There has never been a person, let alone a president, who better encapsulates what it is to be an American/Boomer lmao trump-drenched

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 48 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO USE MY PICTURES, PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM YOUR FACEBOOK POSTS

[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 24 points 21 hours ago

“THESE SOCIAL MEDIAS ARE ALL TOO WOKE IM BUYING MY OWN” trump-moist

“please notice me dad -shit I mean donald” billionaire-tears

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 53 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

though there are earlier examples, historians will recognize this as the most obvious start date of the phase known as "Imperial Administration by Posting"

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 50 points 23 hours ago

All-caps boomerposting is basically our Mandarin

[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Radlibs would eat me for saying that because they're enjoying some kind of bs "I told you so" despite still having fits over even the slightest criticism of Ukraini and Zelensky (despite their darling being openly a rabid zionist who said he wants to turn Ukraine to the Eastern European Israel and transform the country into a US aligned arms manufacturing haven) but it genuinely doesn't seem like Trump fully wanted direct involvement.

Libs just love piling up shit on hated figures without any regard for accuracy. Trump is a NY jetset high lifestyle irreligious libertarian who gets his most massive ego boosts from doing stuff that show off his swag, hustling, deal making skills i.e. showing off his CEO smarts. He's got company boss "you're fired" and "I'm the boss and I get to tell you what to do" authoritarianism, not the classic yankee army loving gung ho militarist authoritarianism type. His entire world view is about business and sees foreign policy and diplomacy more like deals and personal discussions with other country CEOs and doesn't have a single clue about impersonal socioeconomic forces. It's not super unrealistic specifically for him because he can go directly talk with the heads of industry and do direct dealings with the other bougies, he doesn't find it scandalous at all because he doesn't seem to think he's a politician now.

So I don't think he really wanted to get involved, and even as an AIPAC creature I don't think he sees the existence of Israel as some kind of ideological or religious priority, it's all about how much it costs for him. But he definitely doesn't seem to be able to overcome his ego if it gets bruised, or when he gets duped by Bibi or when he feels he has to follow orders etc. More like "don't make me look like a powerless loser and I'll just do this one showoffish strike and we're done".

The attack on Fordow probably didn't even break windows, he absolutely knew it would be ineffective and it seems more like theatre and like "okay I did a strike, it's the best we can do, now stfu already Bibi because going any harder at it will make it a regional war and we can't afford that and supplying Israel at the same time, pick one". And just did that to get out of the pressure.

His original plan was almost definitely based on bs intel from Israel and neo-interventionist zionist goons he has around him all supposedly expecting Iran would fold right away, saw the trap, couldn't get out due to internal politics so pick a theatrical action that (unverified) preannounced to Iran to make sure the retaliation would also be symbolical and won't be pressured to escalate just to save face.

Now he's overselling the strike while lowkey desperately asking for ceasefire but in a grandiose grandstanding way to hide that any further involvement in the region would get the US armed forces constantly removedslapped in a PR nightmare, with terrible logistics, risking completely losing both Iraq and Jordan to the eastern bloc etc.

It's not that Trump cares about peace or something, he cares about getting clean, fast wins by coming up with some business style grift order sent to underlings and any further escalation is not going to be clean, fast or a win. I don't know why libs are so damn blind, his whole vibe in general and about this specifically is transparent as hell.

[–] imTIREDnhungryboss@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

and all Republican dumbfucks can die anytime now

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 38 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It is good that he signed it so people will know it is him who said it.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 41 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That reminds me of that one person who signed all their posts

-7DeadlyFetishes

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 30 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Damn I forgot about that

-7DeadlyFetishes

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So what's the issue? Why you gotta be so judgmental?

-ButtBidet (established in November 2020)

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Now that takes me back to the days of the Old Internet

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[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago

I learned photoshop just to make banner signatures for forums in those days.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

lmaooooo omg I miss these huge forum signatures so much

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Never forget

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[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 37 points 23 hours ago

actually got a good laugh out of me thank you

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[–] sourhill@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 day ago

13 day war 😇

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