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[–] irdc@derp.foo 154 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a bad look for Apple: it shows that there's basically no editorial independence at Apple TV, something that has been a well-established feature at for-profit newspapers and television channels for decades. This clearly demonstrates that Apple TV cannot be trusted when it comes to serious news.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Editorial independence a well established feature of for profit media? The fuck you smoking?

[–] irdc@derp.foo 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't need to smoke anything, I simply live in the EU where this is commonplace.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] irdc@derp.foo 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't worry, with media independence being an area of concern for the EU, and with the Digital Services Act in the process of being enacted, we'll no doubt soon Brussels-effect your biggest media providers into compliance. The rest will follow soon thereafter.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Holy, even here in europe you can't bite the hand that feeds you.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 151 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

“According to The Hollywood Reporter, ahead of its decision to end The Problem, Apple approached Stewart directly and expressed its need for the host and his team to be “aligned” with the company’s views on topics discussed. Rather than falling in line when Apple threatened to cancel the show, Stewart reportedly decided to walk.”

The least surprising thing possible to any Jon Stewart fan.

I can’t wait to see him on the late night shows.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 year ago

One of the few people that can stand up to Apple, take an L, and still be more than okay in career and spirit.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can’t imagine any manager who’s dense enough not to know what Stewart’s reaction would be to that sort of line, and whoever suggested a meeting about it should be ashamed.

The day he runs for president (and wins) will be a day that people full of bullshit will remember as the beginning of the end…

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is disappointing of Apple. You hire someone like Jon Stewart and you have to expect him to do hard hitting journalism! Apple is one of the biggest companies in the whole world, they can afford to support their journalists. I’m sure HBO has gone to bat for John Oliver for worse.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

They have their mouths full of winnie the pooh’s cock, and at this point they dont care about anything else.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they already monitor your imessages and if they are critical of china they snitch to the local confucius institute.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am very neutral on this in general. Honestly, Stewart does not need Apple at this point pretty much at all.

But man, to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. I've seen Stewart's "disappointed in you and not particularly worried about it" face and it's weapons grade old dad disappointment. There were definitely sweaty outlines on many of those chairs by the end of it.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stewart does not need Apple at this point pretty much at all.

Did he ever tho?

It's Jon Stewart. He can start a YouTube show and hit millions of subscribers within a week.

[–] ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And then get banned from YouTube because he's not aligning with the company

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

If Russel Brand can be on Youtube without getting banned for his content, I think Jon would be fine.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

He needs a platform for his show. He probably wouldn't care if it was on OAN if he was able to do his own thing.

He's not going to do Youtube. If you're an actual celebrity, that's career suicide.

[–] irdc@derp.foo 1 points 1 year ago

Not YouTube: too controversial. But I wouldn't put it past him to start his own federated service.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good on him for sticking to his ideals. I don’t always see eye to eye with Stewart, but he’s smart, principled, and articulate. Very interesting to hear how Apple is so married to China and AI. I wonder how much we don’t hear because companies and media are afraid of angering the CCP. Thankfully Biden is continuing Trump’s policies of decoupling from China. We can’t do business with genocidal dictatorships and expect to walk away unscathed.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We can’t do business with genocidal dictatorships and expect to walk away unscathed.

Yeah, we learned not to do business with genocidal dictatorships after ww2... Except all those dictatorships that we funded to kill leftists.

But then we learned not to do business with genocidal dictatorships after the cold war... Except all those dictatorships that we funded to buy oil.

But this time I'm sure we definitely learned not to do business with genocidal dictatorships even when they align with our policy goals.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let’s take the win. This time we heed history.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost like corporate profits are more important than the message.

[–] sab@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I appreciate that this is a forum for Apple enthusiasts, but as someone who is not particularly enthusiastic about any big tech company but loves Jon Stewart, I consider this good news. Hopefully he'll keep it going somewhere else.

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Canceling Apple TV over this, knew they were spineless, but this is pathetic since it’s one of the few shows I watch on it. Growing really tired of all these service subscriptions as it is.

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

I’ll do you one better - I’m going to pirate every apple show I watch just do they don’t get my money.

I refer to this tactic by its official name: “How I watch everything already.” 🏴‍☠️

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Thank god it was cancelled… people would have discovered that china uses ai for controlling their citizens (and possibly others). Something that is totally not known to anyone

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple also makes original content for Apple News+, they have some podcasts. I wonder if their original work there is subject to the same policy. If so, that really undermines their credibility as a news source.

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[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First episode on the new network - The Problem With Apple

[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You know he's gonna talk about it soon

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm sure he can move his show to another service without these Apple hangups.

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't get why he didn't just go on YouTube full episodes instead of apple. I would love to watch his show, but I don't want to pay apple a subscription.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Because Google didn't offer him a contract

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[–] mancy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Just cancelled Apple TV+ 🙂

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

already in the news: Apple is dumping China as fast as they can without majorly impacting their products. Manufacturing switching to other countries already.

Damn. I would really like to see his commentary on everything going on now.

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