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War in Iran isn't exactly defense. Deliberations should include the offense secretary.
This has been interesting to watch: Hegseth is apparently running against the grain or considered untrustworthy. Gabbard is expressing contrary opinions to the media. Tucker Carlson is part of the media resistance on this issue. Marjorie Taylor Greene is also opposed to the extent that she tries for express thought.
It’s a who’s who of people that carry water for Russia in the U.S. Of course Russia doesn’t want the U.S. at war with its primary military partner and missile/drone supplier. Sorta funny and sad to see all of them so desperately crawl out of the shadows to reveal their real masters.
I don't think that for Russia an US invasion of Iran would be bad. Russia builds most of the drones themselves on a license now. As Israel is already bombing Iran, Iran won't be able to deliver a lot to Russia for quite some time.
Meanwhile if the US and its EU allies get bogged down in Iraq 2.0 for the next twenty years, Russia will be able to deal with Ukraine much easier, while China can increase its presence in South Asia. Furthermore a full blown war with Iran will likely block the strait of Hormuz, skyrocket the Oil and Gas prices and bankroll Russia as the EU will either directly come crawling back for Russian Oil and Gas or will scale down their efforts to limit sanction circumvention through India, Turkiye, Azerbaijan and others.
If the West commits to "regime change" in Iran, they will likely sacrifice Ukraine to Russia.
They assemble the drones - They have no capacity for some of the electronics or even the high mixture fuel only supplied by Iran. Some of the drone parts originate in China and Germany, Sure they make their own fuel mix but it gets them much less mileage. This will hurt their Ukraine terror bombing effort.
Ah, but it's even better for Russia if we do it and fight each o5her over it, especially if we fight our own sides over it. Russia doesnt just want us making bad calls, they want us at each other's throats to the point we can't back down or start making better calls.
What do you mean on license as in their license will be revoked and they won’t be able to fly the drones that they are using, what’s stopping Russia from stealing the technology and making their own?
Production license.
Russia got the plans how to build the drones from Iran and pays a certain license fee for every drone they build in Russia.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/29/russia-iran-drone-cooperation-industry/
Production of weapons under licensing deals is quite common in the arms industry, especially as it helps to circumvent national export restrictions. For instance the second most common rifle in the West Asia region (after Kalashnikov variants) is the German Heckler & Koch G3 as millions of units were produced by various countries in the region under licensing deals.
Leaking war plans to the Atlantic on signal wasn’t a dealbreaker for trump, but throwing him a subpar birthday parade was.
100%. Trump is petty and selfish. He doesnt care unless personally involved.
I think you nailed it.
Yea because he doesn’t know what he’s doing, like 90% of his cabinet picks are honorific titles.
It’s insane but Trump probably has more experience running a government than any of his staff (probably combined)… this is where we are now. The absolute dumbest timeline.
Yeah of course you don't keep the drunk who spills the beans on a Signal chat in the loop.
Wasn't it Mike Waltz who added Jeffrey Goldberg to the chat?
Yes, but there was also a chat of hegseth's family that he leaked info to on another operation. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372348/signal-pete-hegseth-defense-department
Doesn't matter who accidentally added a journalist. The problem is using Signal to discuss national security plans in the first place.
We're good on OPSEC.
Actually both of those things matter.
The problem is that these assholes plan the slaughter of civilians so casually and cheer and celebrate it like monsters, and they sold that to you as "national security".
"We came, we saw, he died!"
This almost reads like teenage high school drama. Queen Bee giving silent treatment after subpar birthday bash.
Triple Sec Def
He has one use - he will give the order for the military to fire on American citizens. Until then, shut up, and stay out of the way.
We are currently clear on OPSEC
Nobody is talking to Hegseth because Hegseth is talking to everybody.
Plus he's useless in any situations that require knowledge or experience. What value would he really add to deliberations?
Ok my prediction: Someone Trump respects more than Hegseth said Hegseth will get them all killed.
My prediction: Trump is babymad that the birthday parade (that Hegseth was in charge of) was lackluster.
And the sad part is that’s after the Signal leaks.
Nobody is talking to Hegseth
I'll believe that when I see the next leaked Signal chat.
Why would a dictator need to consult with people?
Right? Donnie dumb-dumb just blew off intel from someone supposedly put in place to head up intelligence...I guess with donvict's "Israel first" policy, he'll fight their war with Iran if they want him to.
Because Netanyahu is one of his best and only friends. He does literally whatever he wants, all the time, with very little legally or factually to stop him. That's attractive to a wannabe narcissist dictator, and even more attractive when you realize that half of his meetings with Trump are ego stroking for Trump and making him feel like a Vital Important player in Important Middle East Matters.
Netanyahu is not is friend. Netanyahu has no friends. He has bitches.
Now, as Israel bombards Iranian nuclear facilities and Trump weighs joining the offensive, Hegseth is out of the team is advising him: Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine.
Am I misreading or there an extra/missing word here?
Hegseth is out of the team ~~is~~ advising him (which currently includes): Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine.
Parenthetical added for clarity, but not grammatically necessary.
Either remove the 'is' or add which in front of it.
All the best people.
What were Kegsbreath's qualifications again? I forget.
There's only one qualification required to be a DUI hire
Fox News, toady.
Bootlicker
Aww, poor Petey. Hit me up on Signal if you’re lonely.