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Trump reportedly freezes out his defense secretary in Iran planning: ‘Nobody is talking to Hegseth’ (www.latintimes.com)
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As Donald Trump edges closer to a decision on whether to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has been reportedly been excluded from high-level deliberations. "Nobody is talking to Hegseth," an official told The Washington Post.

Despite early involvement, Hegseth's role appears to have diminished over time, especially following the fallout from "Signalgate"—an incident in which he reportedly shared sensitive information regarding an incoming attack against Yemen's Houthi rebels in a group chat that had mistakenly included a journalist.

Now, as Israel bombards Iranian nuclear facilities and Trump weighs joining the offensive, Hegseth is out of the team is advising him: JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine.

Although the Pentagon has claimed Hegseth remains closely involved, three current U.S. officials confirmed that key briefings and war planning are being led by Generals Kurilla and Caine, with no operational coordination involving Hegseth or his staff.

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This has been interesting to watch: Hegseth is apparently running against the grain or considered untrustworthy. Gabbard is expressing contrary opinions to the media. Tucker Carlson is part of the media resistance on this issue. Marjorie Taylor Greene is also opposed to the extent that she tries for express thought.

It’s a who’s who of people that carry water for Russia in the U.S. Of course Russia doesn’t want the U.S. at war with its primary military partner and missile/drone supplier. Sorta funny and sad to see all of them so desperately crawl out of the shadows to reveal their real masters.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 10 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think that for Russia an US invasion of Iran would be bad. Russia builds most of the drones themselves on a license now. As Israel is already bombing Iran, Iran won't be able to deliver a lot to Russia for quite some time.

Meanwhile if the US and its EU allies get bogged down in Iraq 2.0 for the next twenty years, Russia will be able to deal with Ukraine much easier, while China can increase its presence in South Asia. Furthermore a full blown war with Iran will likely block the strait of Hormuz, skyrocket the Oil and Gas prices and bankroll Russia as the EU will either directly come crawling back for Russian Oil and Gas or will scale down their efforts to limit sanction circumvention through India, Turkiye, Azerbaijan and others.

If the West commits to "regime change" in Iran, they will likely sacrifice Ukraine to Russia.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

They assemble the drones - They have no capacity for some of the electronics or even the high mixture fuel only supplied by Iran. Some of the drone parts originate in China and Germany, Sure they make their own fuel mix but it gets them much less mileage. This will hurt their Ukraine terror bombing effort.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Ah, but it's even better for Russia if we do it and fight each o5her over it, especially if we fight our own sides over it. Russia doesnt just want us making bad calls, they want us at each other's throats to the point we can't back down or start making better calls.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean on license as in their license will be revoked and they won’t be able to fly the drones that they are using, what’s stopping Russia from stealing the technology and making their own?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago

Production license.

Russia got the plans how to build the drones from Iran and pays a certain license fee for every drone they build in Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/29/russia-iran-drone-cooperation-industry/

Production of weapons under licensing deals is quite common in the arms industry, especially as it helps to circumvent national export restrictions. For instance the second most common rifle in the West Asia region (after Kalashnikov variants) is the German Heckler & Koch G3 as millions of units were produced by various countries in the region under licensing deals.

[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago

Yea because he doesn’t know what he’s doing, like 90% of his cabinet picks are honorific titles.

It’s insane but Trump probably has more experience running a government than any of his staff (probably combined)… this is where we are now. The absolute dumbest timeline.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 82 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Leaking war plans to the Atlantic on signal wasn’t a dealbreaker for trump, but throwing him a subpar birthday parade was.

[–] farboo99@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

100%. Trump is petty and selfish. He doesnt care unless personally involved.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

I think you nailed it.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 16 points 12 hours ago

This almost reads like teenage high school drama. Queen Bee giving silent treatment after subpar birthday bash.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 26 points 14 hours ago

Triple Sec Def

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 112 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah of course you don't keep the drunk who spills the beans on a Signal chat in the loop.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't it Mike Waltz who added Jeffrey Goldberg to the chat?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 25 points 16 hours ago

Yes, but there was also a chat of hegseth's family that he leaked info to on another operation. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372348/signal-pete-hegseth-defense-department

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter who accidentally added a journalist. The problem is using Signal to discuss national security plans in the first place.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

We're good on OPSEC.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago

Actually both of those things matter.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that these assholes plan the slaughter of civilians so casually and cheer and celebrate it like monsters, and they sold that to you as "national security".

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago

"We came, we saw, he died!"

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 52 points 17 hours ago

He has one use - he will give the order for the military to fire on American citizens. Until then, shut up, and stay out of the way.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 30 points 16 hours ago

We are currently clear on OPSEC

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Ok my prediction: Someone Trump respects more than Hegseth said Hegseth will get them all killed.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

My prediction: Trump is babymad that the birthday parade (that Hegseth was in charge of) was lackluster.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 6 points 12 hours ago

And the sad part is that’s after the Signal leaks.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Nobody is talking to Hegseth because Hegseth is talking to everybody.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

Plus he's useless in any situations that require knowledge or experience. What value would he really add to deliberations?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

Nobody is talking to Hegseth

I'll believe that when I see the next leaked Signal chat.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why would a dictator need to consult with people?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Right? Donnie dumb-dumb just blew off intel from someone supposedly put in place to head up intelligence...I guess with donvict's "Israel first" policy, he'll fight their war with Iran if they want him to.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because Netanyahu is one of his best and only friends. He does literally whatever he wants, all the time, with very little legally or factually to stop him. That's attractive to a wannabe narcissist dictator, and even more attractive when you realize that half of his meetings with Trump are ego stroking for Trump and making him feel like a Vital Important player in Important Middle East Matters.

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Netanyahu is not is friend. Netanyahu has no friends. He has bitches.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Now, as Israel bombards Iranian nuclear facilities and Trump weighs joining the offensive, Hegseth is out of the team is advising him: Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine.

Am I misreading or there an extra/missing word here?

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Hegseth is out of the team ~~is~~ advising him (which currently includes): Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Dan Caine.

Parenthetical added for clarity, but not grammatically necessary.

Either remove the 'is' or add which in front of it.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

All the best people.

What were Kegsbreath's qualifications again? I forget.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

There's only one qualification required to be a DUI hire

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Fox News, toady.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Bootlicker

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Aww, poor Petey. Hit me up on Signal if you’re lonely.