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i just dont get how these people who type some bullshit into chatgpt actually think and feel like they’re creating something
the whole fun of art is the process and bringing everything together. knowing you saw some shit in your head and created it. what satisfaction could ai “art” bring its “creators” other than maybe tricking dumb old people who dont understand “ai” into thinking they have talent
the whole fun of art is the process and bringing everything together. knowing you saw some shit in your head and created it. what satisfaction could ai “art” bring its “creators”
My theory: The treatlerite gaming brain is so used to instantaneous gratification that the mere act of prompting and choosing is subjectively understood as a creative process. People who are used to patiently creating great things quickly get bored with prompting, but people who have been robbed all their creative potential by education and consumerism get addicted to it because for once it makes them feel like they are doing something. As usual, the proomter is a product of alienation from creative labor
thank you for articulating why that stuff bores the shit out of me so quickly. a co-worker is basically on the prompt dopamine high and i kept explaining to him that i've already tested all the boundaries of this stuff and it's extremely limiting, boring, and samey and he didn't get what I was saying.
i see only a few use cases and only if self-hosted: reference art (very limited, it's actually bad at much of this outside landscapes) and as a way to overcome writer's block if you can't interact with your usual human creative partners for some reason
or just to help format outlines or organize huge, steam-of-consiousness lore dumps. but only if self-hosted, because otherwise you are giving free training data to this shit
It was one of countless similar songs published for the benefit of the proles by a sub-section of the Music Department. The words of these songs were composed without any human intervention whatever on an instrument known as a versificator.
it's funny how 1984 describes the symptoms of late neoliberal capitalism better than it describes what it was trying to
Well, 1984 was quite deliberately more closely based on Orwell's life in the UK. UK has ministries (and its "Ministry of 'Defense'" was constantly engaged in overseas war), Orwell was employed as a propagandist (like Wilson), UK secret police regularly opened his mail, Room 101 is based on chat in the BBC etc.
Despite libs liking to claim it's a perfect replication of Stalin's Russia, it was substantially moreso a criticism of totalitarianism as already existed then in a capitalist state.
Orwell was the worst writer ever, since he conveyed the message opposite to intended. Note how his books, especially 1984, are never presented without additional anticommunist preface and commentaries.
idk why people have to pretend like its art. The technological feat itself is already mindblowing. Like genuinely futuristic capabilities people could never have imagined even 5 years ago. Why not just stick to appreciating that?
The transcription of previously-unreadable scrolls from Pompeii by AI is like one of the coolest use cases for any technology that i've ever heard, yet this kind of shit is what most people are interested in. I don't understand at all.
Because most people are not thinking about translating unreadable scrolls or thousands other specialist usages, but the possiblity of turning their thoughts into pictures without spending very long time on learning how to draw is very tempting.
I'm reminded that the arts have been heavily demonized as a career choice, so there are multiple generations of people who probably have no idea what creating something actually entails.
If you weren't in a STEM program it was widely believed that you would be a useless member of the working class, so now we have a bunch of Go developers who think their midjourney subscription makes them artists.
Jokes on them I have STEM degree and I am also a useless member of the working class
That’s kind of what confuses me about ai enthusiasts. It’s weird to me that they conflate using these programs, an experience which replicates asking some one else to create something *for *you, with the satisfaction of having crafted something yourself. Surely everyone’s created something in their lives and understands what that feels like. Like you can’t go your whole life without cooking a meal, making a birdhouse, a porch, a really cool paper plane, something.
Like you can’t go your whole life without cooking a meal, making a birdhouse, a porch, a really cool paper plane, something.
I mean generally these AI bros were all incredibly chronically online gamers from middle class families who then went to study and grind a STEM degree while their parents paid for everything and then graduated into a 6 figure job where they can door dash every meal while they watch Netflix after work
I studied CS and I've met a ton of people who never swept a floor because they always had maids do all their cleaning growing up and so they just never cleaned anything when they moved out for college
The middle class families you speak of were also notoriously trad I’m sure. If it wasn’t a maid, it was their mom picking up their dirty laundry for them and putting the clean stuff in the drawers for them.
art is the process and bringing everything together. knowing you saw some shit in your head and created it
You took the words right out of my brain. Sitting with an idea/goal/vision and coming up with a method to realise that is the cool thing about art, in my eyes.
I guess you could say going through 100 iterations to find the right AI prompt is some form of art...maybe
I guess you could say going through 100 iterations to find the right AI prompt is some form of art...maybe
It's about as much art as rich 18th century fucks pestering local artists for weeks to get their shitty portraits right.
It's not even good lmao l, it's boring as fuck.
I always found it very telling that techbros think they can replace artists with AI, these are completely empty people who never saw an art piece and felt something, anything
The funniest thing is when someone posts an interesting new style on one of the reddit AI slop subs and everyone asks what prompt was used to achieve it but the poster refuses to share because they're so protective over it.
Theoretically the tools available with locally hosted models can be used alongside traditional compositing and sketching to mesh component bits together and clean up technical problems that they don't have the skills to address themselves, but midjourney is a fucking discord gacha bot where you pay to do image generation pulls. That person did not make anything, they paid midjourney to generate nonsense until they found something they liked.
And I say "theoretically" someone can use these tools this way because I have seen it myself, but even the hobbyist community around local image generation is mostly concerned with making the "generate image" gacha pulls work better instead of doing anything at all for themselves. Which kind of makes sense: it's a slot machine, they're building a private slot machine where they press the button and get dopamine and they just keep pressing the dopamine button and any effort they invest is going to be in trying to make the dopamine button tastier and more rewarding. They're addicted to it, in other words.
i use a local stable diffusion to generate reference myself
i've found i draw more often now because of it as i can spend a couple minutes generating the reference images then get straight into sketching, instead of spending ages searching for a good collection of refs and getting distracted until the urge to draw dies
I implore everyone to look at the 1,9 million member strong /r/wallpaper and especially this specific post:
Because this and so much AI art looks exactly like that and for the same reason I imagine, it's not "art" in the sense that it ever had anything to say except looking cool or pleasant or whatever because functionally it's that, it's wallpaper. It's background noise. Following this I think I get the success in the sense that having to learn blender and photoshop to do this type of thing was always just a hindrance
i guess i see where you’re coming from and maybe its just the sort of person i am as a more tech-literate and artistic sort, but i would (and have) much rather just learn to use the programs. there’s actual satisfaction and artistic merit in that. i hate to shit on people and i know not everyone can be skilled at making good looking art so i dont wanna be like negative or anything towards those people but seeing someone refer to it as “their work”. im just not into that lol
Oh this isn't a defense. I'll freely admit to a brief phase in my teens of trying to make my computer cool as fuck with wallpapers and GUI modifying software and such but I do believe that's a youth sin you're allowed to have and then you oughta grow out of it, not continue down the path and think the picture that says nothing at all should be featured in an art gallery because it has that mid 2010s "photorealistic" HDR bullshit sheen
My point was much more that I don't think the trend is as new as AI image generation, that just revived a movement that died out when everything got turned into smartphones and tablets. Like I'm pretty sure the example you posted is on a 16:9 vertical aspect ratio because it started as a phone wallpaper
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It's the problem with so much of AI too this picture looks evocative and raises questions about what is happening unfortunately there isn't anything actually happening because the computer that made it didn't have an actual concept in mind just that the person asking the prompt likes translucent soft curves.
Is it some kind of future restaurant over an ocean? What are those things floating outside? What's the order being served like a meal?
And there aren't answers to any of those questions because it's just different shimmers randomly generated in a pleasing way.
It's so soulless, literally.
soulless husk of an image
This is dogshit even by the standards of AI "art". That said, at least he made it draw a hand. AI art is for drawing hands and teeth and things where it makes interesting mistakes.