Like when Fox News got their hands on 40,000 hours of January 6 footage, and edited a 2 minute montage of people being not committing mayhem, and then used that carefully edited clip to claim the allegations of violence were liberal lies.
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It'd be better if it showed positive. At least there might be a reason for him being such a shitty person, now there isn't...he's just a shitty person with no excuse.
I really don't care, but if we're playing this game, could we get a hair test?
It's obviously impossible that could be faked. I mean an image of a text document? There's no way!
Mere emojis are insufficient to convey how much I'm rolling my eyes.
Lmao, reminds me of this Chinese phrase "此地無銀三百兩" (There are no 300 taels of silver buried here)
It is said to come from a story about a man named Zhang San (張三). According to the story, he buried 300 taels of silver in the ground with the banner “There are no 300 taels of silver (buried) here” so that no one would steal them. But his neighbor Wang Er (王二) saw through the lie and dug up the money, leaving the banner “Your neighbour Wang Er did not steal (the silver)”.
In English it's "Thou doth protest too much", as in, no one asked you to defend yourself and its suspicious that you did
That's a great parable though, I'm going to end up telling it to my kids someday
Because drug tests are famously impossible to falsify, right?
The worse implication of this is that even if the results are true (which I don't accept because there was no witness or video evidence of the specimen collection), he still did all that crazy shit, including two nazi salutes, while allegedly sober.
He must really think we are all as dumb as he is.
There's a certain kind of 'smart' person that thinks everyone else is stupider than them.
given the videos of him high.
it would be better for him to admit he has a problem for simpathy, than admitting that him twitching on camera is his normal self.
If the claim is that his obnoxious behaviour is nothing to do with his drug habit, I'm prepared to accept that.
"I swear it's not drugs, I am just a giant asshole completely naturally!"
Love how he doxxed the Dr.
He absolutely did not submit the urine of one of his army of children.
For sure not.
They test for "ecstacy", the street name, not "MDMA" the official name? Where did he get these test results from, his dealer?
Opiates are tested, and oxycodone? But oxycodone is an opiate. Is this list created by chatgpt?
It says it was a urine sample. As if the richest man in the world cannot get a clean urine sample from someone. It's probably from the only kid he gives attention (to block snipers when he's out in the open). That's probably why the kid punched him in the face. Because daddy wanted to touch his pipi.
So I'm familiar with this organization for reasons.
USDTL itself is the real deal. Not a drug testing expert, but it's probable the assay used flags positive for Ecstasy in the presence of either MDMA and/or MDMA metabolites like MDA. Like the guy below you said, it's also common to separate out oxy from opiates - an opiate screen from this lab detects codeine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, and morphine. The oxy screen flags positive in the presence of oxycodone and oxymorphone.
None of this is to say it's actually Elon's urine, though - I'd usually give USDTL the benefit of the doubt re: chain of custody, but the guy has too much money and brainwashees to totally rule out this being an unsupervised collection where someone else's pee was swapped in. Send me an uncut video of a hair collection, with the specimen id clearly marked and everything packaged up to forensic standards on camera, and I might have less doubt.
At least in that case, any fuckery after the fact is a great way to lose CAP accreditation.
As someone that doesn't know anything about drugtests, how long are these things still testable?
Ketamine shows up in urine for a couple of weeks maybe. A blood test would show it 24h - three days.
Hair tests are most reliable to check for long term substance use. From hair it would be detectable for months.
This is said to be a urine test, but cheating those is pretty trivial as well. The way urine tests work is that they just check the values and if your value of a certain drug is under a certain threshold, even if some is detected, it's counted as a negative. So if you drink tons of water, you can dilute your piss, making it less likely that the test will flag any metabolites in your pee. However, to counter this, labs also test your creatine value, which is an indicator if you've diluted your pee or not. However, to fool that particular check, all you need to do is take a creatine supplement, so you'll have too high levels of creatine, but when you dilute your piss, they'll be on the normal level. So the piss will be extremely diluted, while still having a "normal pee" creatine value, making the tester think it's good, while it's actually not.
So this genuinely proves jack shit. I mean, if it's not faked in any way, then what it "proves" is that Elon isn't a 247 weeder and has been without hard drugs for like, half a week. And that really isn't a sign of not being addicted, desperately trying to prove you're not the junkie people say you are by being sober for the better part of one week after the whole world has turned on you and everything you own is going to shit.
If you only consume occasionally pretty much all of those substances are only testable 1-3 days after consuming them, if you're a regular user it's usually between 5-7 days maximum.
As a regular user Ketamine could be tested up to 14 days in your urine. THC has the longest timeframe with up to 60 days when you use regularly.
Will share what I know, but for the record I'm a layman - any toxicologists in the house?
Depends on the compound, dosage, frequency of use, sample type, and test method. A screening immunoassay, for instance, will usually have a higher cut off than an LC-MS/MS (liquid chromatography tandem mass spectrometry) test. Good rule of thumb for your typical urine drug of abuse screen is 2 to 3 days, but again this varies (THC, for instance, can be detected for a loong time depending how big a stoner you are/how long you've used).
The stuff folks are mostly worried about re: Elon? About 2-3 days, assuming the typical urine DoA screen.
Now, you can also test other sample types (hair, nails, etc.), and in which case some compounds are detectable for much longer (90 days, etc.). But that window is also impacted by stuff like (in the case of hair, for example) how much hair is collected, where it's collected (scalp v. body hair), how long after last use it's collected, etc.
weirdly enough I typically see oxycodone listed separately from opiates in urine drug screens my guess is there's an easy enough test to tell the difference and oxycodone is a commonly enough prescribed pill so there are times when it is useful to see if you're taking legit prescriptions vs you're self medicating off the street vs you're diverting your own scripts to the street
the rest i dunno
Fair
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Funny thing about pics on the internet. You can swear upside down and backwards they are legit, but we all know better
It's also impossible to remove a picture from the Internet, regardless of how hard you try or how much money you have...
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Well, as much as I'd love to believe him, I can't. I start immediately asking questions, like, why is every word either all caps or start with a capital letter except for the word "negative"? Could be the way that lab does it, but almost nowhere else seems to.
There are similar documents you can find online and they all look pretty similar, from comparing them, I'd say the document itself is authentic, although that tells us nothing but that the pdf does come from a lab that does drug testing and that it has his name on it. We don't know if it was his urine, or if he paid to have a clean report or anything the like.
what stood out to me is my name has been printed as Last, First on every medical form i have ever seen!
Ohhh. I didn't notice that bit. Same.
From all the ways, that is probably the worst argument to dismiss it with.
Yes. I mean this as more of a, "I trust him so little that I automatically pick up the smallest detail and assume he is still lying."
I would normally give someone the benefit of the doubt.
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