i go away for half a fucking day and israel starts a fucking war
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Are there members of the Israeli cabinet and the ones prosecuting the belligerency that earnestly believe the Gog and Magog end-times eschatological 
stuff? Ben-Gvir, etc.? Or is it all cynical?
I don’t think so! That’s all Christian Evangelical shit
The Gog and Magog story ties into the same "Third Temple" narrative that I've heard from the mouths of several Zionist settlers now being interviewed. Gog and Magog will be defeated, the land is restored*, the Third Temple constructed etc. etc.
*It made me sick listening to those settlers talk about how the Palestinians 'mistreated the land' and didn't deserve it and comparing it to the Zionist delusions of a restored Israel
The reality is, of course, the Kushner/Trump Hotel Temple and Casino built on the graves of dead children.
The wikipedia summary of what I am trying to convey.
The Book of Ezekiel records a series of visions received by the prophet Ezekiel, a priest of Solomon's Temple, who was among the captives during the Babylonian exile. The exile, he tells his fellow captives, is God's punishment on Israel for turning away, but God will restore his people to Jerusalem when they return to him.[18] After this message of reassurance, chapters 38–39, the Gog oracle, tell how Gog of Magog and his hordes will threaten the restored Israel but will be destroyed, after which God will establish a new Temple and dwell with his people for a period of lasting peace (chapters 40–48).
On his part, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio claimed "Israel" took “unilateral action against Iran,” warning that Tehran should not target the US in response to the Israeli attack.
“Our top priority is protecting American forces in the region. Israel advised us that they believe this action was necessary for [their] self-defense,” Rubio stated.
“President Trump and the Administration have taken all necessary steps to protect our forces and remain in close contact with our regional partners,” he added.
“Let me be clear: Iran should not target US interests or personnel."
Oh? Word? Cool so it's just between Iran and the zionist entity calling itself 'israel'. So if Iran decides to shoot a bunch of missiles and drones at this entity, US naval forces will not shoot those down or attempt to disrupt their course right? RIGHT? RIGHT?!?! Because that would make you a party to the conflict wouldn't it. Fucking special privilege demanding fucks.
It's US, they can do things like literally invade and occupy a country, or bomb unrelated country with millions of bombs plus WMD, but it's not even officially a war.
It's only a war if you shoot back
An unnamed Israeli defence official said the strikes have likely killed members of Iran’s general staff, including the chief of staff and several senior nuclear scientists.
Am I supposed to be glad to hear that they're murdering scientists?
I mean critical support for Iran of course but why are they so bad at this after all that has happened? After Soleimani, after they got Nasrallah, after the pager attacks, after years of zionist agents on motorbikes machine-gunning their scientists. You'd think op-sec would be higher priority.
They can't stop them from flying their old f-16s or whatever junk the IOF has into their airspace. They can't detect them in time to shelter important people. And worse than that they are so compromised despite knowing in advance for a near fact that attack is imminent via this very means that they can't hide their people properly from these attacks from the air meaning the zionists either have intelligence that knows where they are day to day (possibly hour to hour) and safe locations or that they continued going about their business in the most obvious places despite this threat and knowing they cannot stop it.
I know it's a bit armchair general but if you know you can't stop their air force, you know they're coming to attack you. You even have signals of warning like silly nerds on this site posting about increases in pizza orders at DC places the military planners and late night intelligence meeting ghouls like 6 hours ahead of time. You have the US evacuating personnel from bases and embassies in the region. You should at least shelter the people they're likely to target yes? The top leadership, the scientists? And keep that location a secret.
Honestly the zionists, I hate it, but the zionists have been doing incredible lately on a strategic level. They've taken out all their enemies save Iran and Yemen and depending on how bad this was and how many top leadership were killed they might have done a lot of damage to Iran. They are objectively in a stronger position than they have been since the modern resistance formed with Hezbollah as part of it.
And I predict Iran's retaliation will not be that spectacular. That the US will shoot down most of it with their advanced aegis cruisers parked off the coast (which is why tactically Iran should target those with their most advanced weapons as they're de-facto combatants but they won't).
One issue is that Russia has not been able to supply them with sufficient air defence for reasons that are kind of obvious.
Is Russia producing Sahed drones in Russia itself? Because if not, this seems like a part of an American-led strategy to deprive Russia of arms, while also weakening Iran.
I know the various middle eastern states have differing views and are hopelessly compromised, but surely, at some point they have to realise none of them are safe while Israel continues its irredentist stance! They're a mad dog at this point that flout even their close allies, and I'm shocked that a coalition hasn't been formed. Does MBS and Erdogan really think Israel won't come for them the moment they find something shiny they want?
Capitalist elites hold no loyalty for their birth nations, their exit strategy is always and simply cash, the compradors do not view their people as members of their in-group, in fact they're universally hostile and scared of them
Imagine Uncle Ruckus if he was a billionaire
I do wonder how their populations tolerate that shit though, were the repressions a decade ago that effective? Egypt has seemed particularly quiet while a genocide of Arab people occurs next door, do they still have nightmares of 1967 or something? military government will just kill you?
Around late 2023 when the genocide was entering its early phase, a piece of graffiti critical of Sisi showed up on a wall in a Cairo neighborhood; the state immediately turned off electricity to that entire part of the city, hundreds of cops and secret police swarmed the streets and every home and apartment within several square kms was searched
That's the level of repression taking place in Egypt
jesus christ, i didn't realize it was that bad there
Yeah Egypt is the most complicit country after the US
I mean, they don't, and that was a large motive around the Arab spring in Egypt. But the current state has an iron grip and the populace was exhausted and scared of what happened to Libya and Syria (ignoring that the revolts were very different there, and very different from each other)
May the people of Iran stay safe from the Zionist entity.
Horrible… I hope Iran has the resources to double down on its missile strikes compared to operation true promise 2. And I hope they’ve got a clandestine aspect to their nuclear program as a contingent. There’s really no better guarantor of sovereignty or defense against invasion, as proven by the example of the DPRK, and counterexamples of the Libyan jamahariya and Baathist Iraq
THEYRE FUCKING DOING IT LETS GOOO
I dont know much about the politics of the region other than "Zionism bad, Israel is US vassal state and the lesser Satan."
Can someone please explain what's going on here/where all this might be heading? I should know, but feel ashamed for not knowing, so am asking earnestly here.
Iran is the last country in the middle east hostile to the USA*, ever since Iran overthrew the pro-West Shah the USA has been trying to find ways to make them submit. If Iran develops a nuclear program, future regime change becomes exponentially more difficult and dangerous.
Also as the only Shia country**, they are allegedly arming and supporting Shia militants across the middle east, most notable is Hezbollah which Israel fights on and off.
Israel's primary concern is that a nuclear Iran would provide dirty bombs to Hezbollah or other militants and bypass the iron dome.
*Not that any country in the ME like the USA **Iraq and Azerbaijan are officially Secular Islamic
Israel's primary concern is that a nuclear Iran would provide dirty bombs to Hezbollah or other militants and bypass the iron dome.
That's propaganda. Their concern is the same as any unhinged settler nuclear power. Namely they want the right and power to destroy with nuclear weapons their enemies at a time of their choosing without those enemies being able to hit them back. It's the oldest want in warfare and empires: to be able to hit an enemy in a way they cannot hit you back. As genocidal settlers they know deep down the wrong they work and how the region is full of people who rightfully hate them and they fear those people and need nuclear weapons to deter and intimidate them. It's the samson option, the bluff that they can and will take out everyone around them if they fall.
I'd point out Lebanon is secular but has political roles reserved specifically to Shia (and Sunni, and Christian)
Ok, thanks so much for explaining! Appreciate it!
Israel and Iran have traded blows once or twice a year for the past few years now. It is worrying how it seems to be escalating year over year but imo it won't evolve into a full scale conflict this time. Iran is desperately toeing a fine line between looking weak demanding diplomacy and responding with a commensurate military action but they genuinely do not want an all out war with Israel.
For the Israelis these regular attacks are partly to destabilize Iran but primarily to shore up support at home.
It would not surprise me if the Trump regime actually played a role in making this happen to distract from what's going on here in the states but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
Saw this coming when we started pulling troops out of surrounding countries days ago. Smh
Hold on to your butts...
They're really gonna do it huh damn
fuck