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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 9 hours ago

Yet, nobody is actually doing it! I mean doing anything about it like doing it. But I mean, it's happening so somebody must be doing it. I don't know man, I think for sure there has to be somebody doing it.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Japan

The same place that had used panties in vending machines and this is somehow shocking.

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 41 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There's still a difference between a piece of clothing that may or may not have been worn by anonymous women and creations using real people without their knowledge or consent. Not trying to defend those vending machines but these aren't the same in terms of results and potential effects on the victims.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think this is more a comment on the particular strain of misogyny that pervades Japanese society and not being surprised that a country which has women only metro carriages out of necessity to prevent sexual harassment is also having a problem with AI generated deep fakes. Though the latter is also a problem in many other countries which have access to these image models.

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

That's a fair point but, as you already mentioned, deepfakes are a pretty universal problem unfortunately. The type of misogyny in Japan compared to say US or Europe doesn't seem to affect that much (if at all). Either way, it's a terrible practice without sufficient ways to combat it at the moment which makes me pretty worried about how things will evolve in the future - in terms of "content", affecting lives of victims and laws that will come out of this (some probably made in the worst possible knee-jerk reactionary ways).

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Photoshops were a thing before AI. Nobody cares because its just a weird thing creepy do in private.

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Photoshop requires at least some skill and doesn't allow for mass production of fakes the way generative AI does. Same problem, different scale.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Pasting a face over a body in photoshop is just as easy as snapping a polaroid of someone and pasting their face on a porn mag. AI just makes it faster.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Hopefully they're at least mature looking women.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Adult Adults or Pubescent Adults? Because that sounds like you want a lower bar to clear? Japan is one of many nations following Romeo and Juliet laws which protect minors age 14 to 18 and pre-existing relationships from persecution by the law, but personally I think production of all sub-18 pornographic imagery should be banned and all gratuitous imagery should be heavily restricted.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Adults. Where I am from the word adult only has one meaning. An adult is a person of 18 years of age at the very least.

You said "mature looking" for which a 16 year old person might qualify depending on the exact interpretation which is not ok. It doesn't matter what they look like, it matters whether they are an adult or not. Going for looks reminds me of creeps going "he/she is so mature for his/her age". That is not ok.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We're talking about fictional women and artwork, their physical age is measured in seconds. In my language Woman means to say Adult Female, as opposed to Girl.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh right. My mistake. I guess when it comes to art then anything that isn't obviously a child is technically legal, if distasteful and morally more than questionable. At least that is the legal situation in most countries.

My objective is the minimisation of harm. If someone uses artwork and that means that they will never touch an underage person then that is a good thing even though I may not like it.

[–] Varying9125@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They could still be sarcastic.... Beware!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

That's impossible because there is no tag. When you see a statement on the internet you need to automatically assume the poster truly believes it or else you open the door to the intolerant.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing like subtle racism. I wonder what kind of boots the woman will be wearing? Perhaps tasty ones?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There is nothing racist about this. It was debated in Japan in parliament and in courts in 1970, 2003, 2009, 2011, 2013, etc. Both UNICEFF and the US State Department have made public statements and reports about the poor state of child gratuity and smut originating from Japan and of crimes against children in general with the idol industry. In a public opinion poll 86% of Japanese respondents said they needed tighter restrictions on manga and anime obscenity involving minors.

The worst kind of people are you who ignore real problems with the world and society under the false pretense of fairness. If you really treated them fairly you would hold them to the same standard as everybody else.

[–] fangorious@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Could they maybe deepreal their way out of having to censor the hentai already?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The resolution on those is so poor that I can't imagine these becoming popular unless they figure out how to get them much less pixelated.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

And most of the porn is pixelated anyway? At this point I’d assume anything pixelated is Pavlovian and arousing to most Japanese.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

I unironically had that

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 7 points 12 hours ago

Box blur just hits different if you are Japanese

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

So that's the trick!... I just need bigger pixels!

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ngl, I've been tempted to find one of those things and use it on a picture of myself just to see how accurate they get.

But it would have to be totally offline, and even then I wouldn't actually do it

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry buddy, send me a picture and I can do it for you, free of charge!

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well, how about a cock pic? settle for a pic of my cock?