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[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 days ago

No I think not. But the feeling of freewill do exist and seems universal. So if we have a fact based approach, it does not change much. I think there it a lot of proof that freewill is at least very weak compare to social determinism.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Anyone down for a sustained meaningful relationship? I'd really like to discuss whether happy meal toys count as gambling

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[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it half-exists. I speak from a deep inspection of will performed while meditating.

There is a spark of energy that arises from my mysterious depths, that preceeds choice. I dunno where it comes from. Like I said, mysterious depths.

The spark enters this world and takes its form from it. Becomes a choice. Taking form from formlessness like breath blown into a flute. Or a player's will injected into a videogame.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

No. Because the people in power use their influence to torture everyone else.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

fyi do not talk about whether women have freewill to your conservative husband or it will hurt their feelings and some of their hearts have grown so tiny it might crush their old self in a single blow.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago (4 children)

No. Last I knew, PET (?) scans appear to indicate that decisions are reached by your unconscious mind before they're made by your conscious mind; the implication is that what you believe is you making a choice is actually you rationalizing a choice that's been made through processes that you can't directly see or affect. IF that's correct, then people are quite deterministic, as long as you know all of the inputs.

But on a practical, day-to-day basis, calling it 'free will' is a convenient fiction or shorthand. While free will may not exist, we largely believe that it does, and our perception of that in turn shapes our perception of reality. So it ends up not really mattering, strictly speaking.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I can definitely take a 'decision' that's arrived from the subconscious, analyse it consciously, and accept, modify or reject it. I'm aware many people don't do that so much. So I think the results of those scans might be just a small part of the picture of what's going on with consciousness and will.

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