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Some people have it worse (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by Trex202@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’ve never understood the argument that you shouldn’t complain about the environment you interact with because other people interact with worse environments.

Like, okay, that’s good to keep in mind with respect to privilege and assumptions and such, but like…

I can’t deliver a first-hand account of someone else’s life, and I can’t identify the possible solutions to their problems as well as I can for my own — let alone access their world as well as my own, to try to fix some of the problems.

I think on some level the people who say “focus on those other people’s problems” know that those other problems are less accessible.

It’s not that they want you to do better activism. It’s that they want you to do none.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

It's basically whataboutism

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago

I’ve never understood the argument that you shouldn’t complain about the environment you interact with because other people interact with worse environments.

I call this the "children of Africa" -argument. Basically, it's an argument that you can never complain about anything or do anything to better something, because "some kids are starving in Africa"; someone always has it worse. It's purpose is to belittle and brush aside either the problem worded out or the person saying it (or both).

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

i think the joke here is that a lot of people who come across this do live in America and it implies we all pity them

[–] JulieLemming@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Thank on your knees to fate that you weren’t born in Egypt

There’s no worse cesspit on earth that isn’t a warzone

Even India is more civilised and even nice folks in comparison

Friend of my friend once said that staying there she will either kill herself, get r**** or join hamas and she eventually joined hamas so yeah

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My friend is from Egypt and he says the same but I have no idea what exactly is there that is so bad. Can I elaborate.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago

I've been to Egypt several times, and sometimes I've stayed with people who have moved there.

The impression I get is that there very few ways for people born there to raise themselves up above what I call "The Hustle". There's a state of being where the key to survival is extracting money out of everyone you meet. By fair means or foul, you must make money.

It can be making sure every person that walks into your shop buys something. It can be being a kerb crawling tuk tuk driver pestering walkers by. It can be thieving. It can be taking bribes in local government. Everybody is on the hustle. You can't afford to trust people because they'll take any advantage they can. It's a permanent state of stress and fear.

...and then there are the immigrant whales that move there, buy a big house on the coast and exploit the locals by flashing the cash.

All of that said, when people do manage to find something stable, they're a great people, but there are so few decent ways to make enough money.

[–] JulieLemming@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Mentality is just merciless and cruel. Years of generational human abuse. Abused become abusers. Corruption, nepotism, patriarchy. On Egypt Facebook your feed is full of videos of animal abuse and laughing smileys in comments. It’s a dark place

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[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Am I allowed to complain since I live in the USA ?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Do what I do. Grit your teeth and avoid the headlines. Check in daily but don't get sucked in. Check the uplifting news to feel better.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

No. You and your fellow citizens voted for this.

[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I voted Harris so no I didnt vote for this.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Then you are, of course, allowed to complain.

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[–] gleb@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

no, not all of us did. it just so happens that morons yell the loudest

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Either people voted against him, for him, or abstained from voting (implicitly agreeing with whatever decision the majority made).

The last two groups there, vastly outweighed the first one in this election.

You're right, not everyone wanted this.... But that's how democracy is. You vote and, at least in theory, the person that the most people vote for (believe in/agree with), is then made president.

By definition, democracy will always have people who didn't vote for the current government.

All I'm saying is that either by action (voting for Trump) or inaction (not voting), a majority decided that he should become president.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Right but you didn't say that. You said "you voted for this", as if Americans are some monolithic bloc with equal responsibility for the current state of affairs. If you tell me that I, an American, deserve the current administration because I voted for it, you are just completely, literally wrong. I, and 75 million other people, voted for Harris.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You dug your bed, now lie in it ?

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 6 days ago

It's good to put your own problems into perspective sometimes.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

If enough locals had their way, we would return to an independent republic

[–] Hellsfire29@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nothing like the entitled Americans complaining while talking on their $1000 iPhones and their designer jeans about living in America. Having a President like Trump must make things so hard for you.

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