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IDF extends evacuation order to October 14th (lemmy.world)

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The IDF Spokesman Twitter account for Arabic has published guidance for Gazans to evacuate along two main roads between 10am and 4pm today (October 14th).

Translation courtesy of @hassanmckusick:

#Urgent Important statement for residents of Gaza City In recent days, we have appealed to you to leave Gaza City to the south of Wadi Gaza in order to preserve your safety. I would like to inform you that the IDF will allow movement on the indicated streets without any harm between the hours of 10:00 - 16:00. For your safety, take advantage of the short time to move towards the south - from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. If you care about yourself and your loved ones, go south as instructed. Rest assured that Hamas leaders have taken care of themselves and are taking cover from strikes in the region. Residents of Al-Shati, Al-Rimal and West Al-Zaytoun will also be allowed to move on Daldul and Al-Sanaa Streets towards my street By At Saladin and the sea

Jerboa doesn't show the link and the picture together: https://twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1713065991511388610

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[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Fuck Israel for doing this. Displacing an entire population of people. I'd bet money that MOSAD knew about this attack (maybe not to this degree), but expected that it'd give them all the political ammunition that they'd need to fuck over Palestinians even worse than they already have it.

[-] Milan@feddit.nl 47 points 1 year ago

I don't think they did, at least not the extent of it. It was a massive embarrassment to Netanyahu. 86% of jewish Israelis blame him for the attacks and more than half are asking him to resign.

[-] keardap@lemmy.selfhost.quest 34 points 1 year ago

This is a major intelligence fuckup. Bibi is done for.

Fuck both Hammas and Israel politics for this. Hammas built tunnles under civilian infrastructure (hospital, apartment buildings, kindergarten) in Gaza Strip and hides there.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Shin Bet (Mossad but domestic issues) DID actually warn the Likud party and Ben Netanyahu that the increased violence supported by the Israeli state against Palestinians in the West Bank (Al Aqsa Mosque, Jenin etc.) were going to increase tensions and risk a Hamas response.

They were largely ignored, mocked, or slandered as deep state arab supporters. Make no mistake that this is not only does this war serve Likud and Bibi, but also their long term interests in cleansing the west bank of Palestinians.

Also, Likud and Bibi's successive govts took multiple policies to push Hamas into conflict with the Palestinian Authority (the actual elected govt of the West Bank) and in turn keep their political modus operandi against Palestinians from weakening.

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[-] slaughtermouse@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's an ominously round shapefile they used to mark the evacuation boundary..

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

if they're posting it to twitter, hearing in mind power and internet are totally cut in Gaza, this is for YOU to read, not Palestinians.

when civilians are inevitably killed they'll tell the press that it was "clearly communicated through official channels" and everyone online will just take the IDF at its word.

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago

They are also dropping leaflets.

Not defending the IDF, just saying

[-] yakultdrinkr 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think they've been dropping leaflets and some people still have access.

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[-] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Translation:

The safe way to move civilians south

Street name 1

Street name 2

Yellow line: Safe route

Dotted lines: Gaza Border

Source: Google translate app

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Also those paths are roughly 10 miles long for anyone unfamiliar with the region or to lazy to check Google maps.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago

And Israel has already bombed a convoy following that exact route. There's no reason for Palestinians to trust this, if they could even get on the internet to begin with.

[-] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Can you share a link about that?

[-] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 11 points 1 year ago

Prob this: https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/70-killed-after-convoys-of-evacuees-in-gaza-hit-by-israeli-strikes-195213381735

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[-] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Fuck the Israelis state of apartheid for doing this. Displacing an entire population of people.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fuck the terrorist organization Hamas, slaughtering innocent people in their homes. Also fuck the terrorist organization Hamas for not lifting a single finger to care for their population who elected them in democratic elections. Fuck them for not only not defending them - but actively put them in danger, starting a conflict with Israel then hiding in civillian homes and preventing those citizens from fleeing a war zone.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's approximately how long it would take to traverse from inside the city to outside the circle: https://i.imgur.com/aZxkGlt.png

[-] nyoooom@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Except you have a million people trying to do the same, that's extra extra extra taffic

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 35 points 1 year ago

Imagine hauling your grandma and toddlers across 24km of crowded street with occasional rubbles, and you need to cross them within 6 hours or risk a fiery death. Totally doable! /s

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Because everyone has a car and driving through rubble is no problem. Especially with a million people who do not have electricity, fuel or food.

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[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

terrible time to assume they are using cars

[-] naalo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Right? How can they afford a car if they can't even afford food and are unemployed.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

no fuel, no power, no food, no water.

[-] yakultdrinkr 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing. I wonder what the walking estimate is and driving with traffic.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The walking estimate is around 5 hours

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're a healthy adult and not bringing all your remaining possessions, your elderly parents and your children.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yes obviously, that goes without saying.

It's a walking estimate and those obviously assume that you walk at an average constant pace for 5 hours without slowing down (or up) or stopping.

The estimate isn't for estimating how long it will take them. It's for getting an idea on how far it is. Then you can estimate time on your own, with variables such as children, bringing your stuff, etc.

It's a lot easier to visualize the distance if you have an estimate of what it would take you, compared to a fancy map with no scale or anything.

[-] yakultdrinkr 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you! I can't imagine being in that situation.

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