If this escalates into a all out war I'm curious to see whose side the average Lemmy user will be taking. I tried doing some research into the history of this conflict and it seems so messy that from my point of view pretty much both sides are to blame.
this post was submitted on 10 May 2025
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Modi is Trump light, but Pakistan is led by a combination of ignorance, misogyny, and incompetence that is geopolitically destabilizing.
Not sure how "light" I'd call that fucker
Also wird Lemmy zu Pakistan stehen.
The ultimate colprit is British colonialism, and the way the border is drawn after they left
That's my intrepretation of it as well but that doesn't really offer any solutions or clarity to the current situation. In most conflicts like this you can always go even further back in history to justify your cause.
Yeah they caused the problem but they won’t be able to solve it at this point. It’s not like they could just go and redraw the lines.
They didn't draw the border.
Gandhi wanted to keep it unified, but the Muslims weren't willing, so they drove out all the Hindus, and exterminated any who were in the way.
India.
Modi is bad, but it's still a democracy while Pakistan is literally a fascist junta founded on genocide while India is a multicultural nation who has religious tolerance in their constitution.
As an atheist, Pakistan is the opposite of everything I believe in.
Not counting all their terrorism over the decades including supporting the taliban and bin ladin.
Course, would prefer if modi died in a fire, but even at its worst Pakistan can't compare.
Inb4 .mls start screaming that Pakistan is the true victim and India is worse than Israel, which is ironic because Pakistan literally either expelled or exterminated all their Hindus at the partition.
I'm on the side of the civilians like in the Israel-Hamas-Conflict
I'm not informed enough to take a side.
The sides have been changing a bit with Pakistan v china relations and India supporting Russia during the war. It's a bit complex. Pakistan still has laws that give the death sentence for apostasy, but while India doesn't the ultra nationalist Hindu party under Modi have been harassing and killing Muslims, so they are effectively doing the same thing. The US has been a bit cool towards Pakistan after the afghan war finally ended. But they still sell them lots of high end military equipment, much better quality than the Soviet slop India has.
I encourage you to read up on the history. It's quite interesting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan%E2%80%93United_States_relations
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Oh, right, that's over. Well, props for knowing when you don't know enough to have an opinion on something. That's rare on the internet.
So, do people want the footballer turned president turned didn't sign the right form when getting married so they are now in jail for life person back? Or is a Pakistani military junta still what the USA wants?
Do you mean Prime Minister Imran Khan who used to be a cricketer?
Confidently uninformed
Do we have a good instance for tangible rumors? Major media is so stale that if it was bread you could use it as a weapon, and anything on reddit is brigaded by both sides. I was hoping Institute for the Study of War would start daily updates, but they seem set on staying on Ukraine and Iran for now. Any help appreciated, because this is a pile of fertilizer soaked in diesel and both sides are throwing grenades at it.