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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope she sues them. It’s the only way these shitty companies will learn.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

I wish she maced him.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do people care so much? Idgaf who uses which bathroom. Do people have men and women's bathrooms in their own homes?

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Let’s just go to all gender bathrooms with highly private stalls like every other civilized country

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago

We already are in my city, it's really nice to see.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If anyone questions actual trans women, they should say they were only in the women's washroom to look for other males.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not so keen on your use of "other" here.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think in this context it's to make a joke about the male hotel guard going into the women's bathroom to check for "other males"

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Yes, I wasn't sure, but it doesn't quite come across right.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago

The terms "male" and "female" refer to sex while "man" and "woman" refer to gender. A trans woman is male by definition.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 49 points 1 day ago

Are ya feeling safer, fellow women?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait... So a man barges into a women's bathroom to pull out a woman just to make sure there are no men in there

My mind is stuck in an endless logic loop

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The women in the bathroom complained so there is more than this guard at play

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, you're right. What's at play is plain anti trans discrimination pushed by a government wanting to distract the populace from looking while they rob the state blind

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The Liberty Hotel initially defended the guard’s actions in a now-retracted statement, claiming “several guests alerted security about two adults occupying a single bathroom stall” and asserting that a physical altercation occurred. Baker and Victor denied those claims outright.

“If that’s what he thought the issue was once he opened the stall door, obviously there was only one person in there, so it should’ve been case closed,” Victor said. “Let her tie up her shorts and go about her day.”

So the guard actually opened the stall door while she was still using the toilet, found a woman in there, and then stuck around to demand ID to prove she was a woman? What a weird thing to do.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember back years and years ago conservatives who regularly used unisex bathrooms losing their shit over gender neutral bathrooms because women were afraid of men entering the bathroom at the same time and forcing open stall doors to take a peek.

And here we are except it was those petrified conservatives doing the forcing and peeking. Guess they were afraid of themselves.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Guess they were afraid of themselves.

That seems to drive a whole lot of right-wing attitudes. "Everyone is like me, therefore everyone is scary and dangerous." But without the self-awareness.

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[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 148 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Anybody remember those SNL skits where a character named Pat was not clearly male or female, and the whole joke was how everyone was just confused about how to address them but still ended up being polite and friendly? I don't understand how our culture got from there to people demanding proof of gender from strangers.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 2 days ago
[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

i love movies like that, too, but it definitely wasn't popular when it was released. and pat was always the butt of the joke. i also have to check my "but we cured racism in the 90s" indoctrination sometimes. fresh prince made me think things were a lot better than they really were back then.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

fresh prince made me think things were a lot better than they really were back then.

Fresh Prince had a lot of references to the fact that racism was alive and well in the 90s. Many of those episodes also focus around the theme that even though the Banks' were wealthy, it still didn't stop them from being discriminated against, and even caused discrimination from other black people.

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[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's Pat, the movie, was a notorious commercial bomb, and sold basically no tickets.

It was made, though, because the recurring SNL sketch was popular enough to attract the investment.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

And what's more, ignoring that proof even when presented.

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[–] MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

The worst part is they suspended him versus firing his creepy ass.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My wife and I went to what we thought was a suuuuper leftist bar in Berlin; Marxist stuff all over the walls, anti-Nazi stuff, etc., but the bartender stopped my wife from entering the restroom, accusing them of not being a cis woman. Sullied the whole goddamn vibe of the place.

TERFs are such awkward bigots in that they have no endgame other than to see your fuckin’ genitals. No safety, no greater good, just do you have a dick or not?

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

now ma'am, I believe that you were born a biological woman like you're saying, but its company policy that I gotta see that pussy

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So, why is it OK for guard man to go inside if there might be a man in there? Does this not double the number of men in the bathroom? I don't understand bigot logic. The women joining in like that is appalling.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"When I do it it's Morally Right™" Is their basic justification.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

The most shocking thing to me is the women. That random women in line said such things indicates to me that there are bigots everywhere.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is bad. But what really struck me was that a hotel had a guard? Do you have guards EVERYWHERE?

[–] unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Not sure if you're being serious, but yeah we have guards pretty much everywhere in the US, particularly in cities. We also have guards at grocery stores (usually multiple guards, and they're usually cops in uniform hired by the store) and at discount stores and sometimes on buses and trains. I've even seen them at convenience stores and cell phone shops. My apartment building has an armed guard on site with their own police-clone patrol SUV from like 10pm to 6am every night, I've had to call them a couple times and they arrive faster than the cops.

The US is a violent shithole and the guards primarily keep away sketchy troublemakers (except in larger stores where they're useless and only used to deter shoplifting).

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Yes serious question. I live in Canada, at most you might see mall security. Just people with a uniform. No weapons. Anywhere else it would be strange to see "guards". It's been a while since I was state side. But if it's become this common the United States has serious problems.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Reminded me of a comment a colleague made during a hotel stay in the US, "they got six people greeting me as I enter the lobby but no one to fix my shower".

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

In the US? Only if there's money.

Guards are only to protect assets not people. When I used to Metro in the Pentagon you would see four or five armed guards with m4s and body armor protecting the carts of the money for the Metro machines. They could give two shits about anyone else.

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tucson here: armed and unarmed guards are really common at low-class-linked businesses like thrift stores, Fry’s supermarkets, Walmart, Dollar stores, Walgreens/CVS. God forbid someone steal food or pharmacy items like shavers (shaver cartridges here are crazy expensive if you get name brand). Walgreens/CVS also has a tendency to lock the shelves behind plexiglass so you have to ask for help to buy more expensive items.

In some cases, these kind of stores are targeted specifically. There are shopping centers with higher end restaurants that coexist with super high theft locations literally within walking distance.

TLDR: it’s mostly to abate crimes of poverty

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 103 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That’s sexual assault, no?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago
[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

You don't get it, its to protect the women! /s

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully TERFs will learn at some point that discrimination against trans women also harms cis women and empowers the patriarch.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 2 days ago

TERFs love the patriarchy, they aren't feminist at all.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 2 days ago

Just start denying any male who don't look like a bodybuilder in the mens room pretty sure then stuff would get figured out.

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