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Boeing rule (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.world
 

And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.

Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned

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[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 15 points 13 hours ago

a lot of .world users say this was a conspiracy

Well. It is a conspiracy. A conspiracy theory, even! I have a very compelling theory that Boeing conspired to kill that guy.

Just because it's a conspiracy (we allege that people conspired to do something bad) theory (we don't have absolute, provable-before-a-judge-and-jury hard evidence) doesn't mean that it's false. Also daily reminder that the CIA purposefully adopted the term "conspiracy theory" to convince the public to dismiss allegations that they secretly did something bad by associating them with Bigfoot and aliens. At the same time as they were secretly drugging random members of the public with LSD and watching them freak out and fall out of windows.

That's one

But what about

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi

And we still deal with the Saudis like it never happened

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago

It's a very plausible conspiracy theory. I think it warrants way more investigation than it got.

[–] madgepickles@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

sounds like America

[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Well I certainly won't be purchasing any Boeing products in the near future.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

I'd be more likely to believe that Boeing tried to kill him if he didn't die

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 day ago

About a week before OOP's post the openAi whistleblower also died mysteriously https://apnews.com/article/openai-whistleblower-suchir-balaji-death-283e70b31d34ebb71b62e73aafb56a7d

[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Logical@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like suicide to me. I feel like Boeing is still largely at fault for bringing him to that point though.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I would hope that if I publicly proclaimed, "I have no intent to commit suicide," before my suicide then people would..

..at a minimum, state, "Brother that guy proclaimed he had no intent to commit suicide," every time it was brought up.

..then ideally that additional scrutiny would be applied at a law enforcement level and the case would be handled with extra scrutiny.

So lacking the ideal, I'm here to remind you that just before his suicide he proclaimed, "I'm not going to commit suicide."

I'm extremely puzzled how this isn't brought up every time, people need to remember.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

yeah that’s what they said!

doesn’t look like anything to me

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

who I do remember is Brock Turner, yes that guy.. the rapist Brock Turner. who now goes by the name of Allen Turner. that guy

[–] WoolyNelson@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

You mean the pathetic rapist Brock Turner, who now goes by Allen Turner (also a pathetic rapist)?

[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 251 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 2 days ago (6 children)

there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:

finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.

so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?

they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
….
i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 93 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You've misread the passive language here. 'no prints were recovered' can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn't, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.

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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (15 children)

An unpopular opinion, but I'm not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy

Reminds me of the Epstein thing. It could be AI. But people do love their conspiracy theories, too.

[–] m0stlyharmless@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Unless there’s actual evidence that it’s AI, I think this is an absolutely absurd assumption to make.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There was a police investigation.

They just didn't investigate Boeing about it because the police investigation determined they weren't involved.

If you truly believe there should be investigations, you have to accept when the results of the investigations don't match your expectations. That's why we have investigations.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The military industrial company a person was whistleblowing against wasn't investigated in the mysterious death of that person.

Yeah that's called not doing a proper investigation.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I need to step in here with a major correction, John Barnett was not Whistleblowing. That's not what the court case was about at all.

No, the court case was for the wrongful termination, which was a result of his whistleblowing.

This is an important distinction, because the whistleblowing was done. John Barnett had nothing more to offer authorities, because he had already turned over all the evidence he collected. That particular case was a done deal years ago.

John Barnett then sued Boeing over his wrongful termination, and some apparent black balling. (i.e. retaliatory rumormongering to prevent John from working in aerospace).

John lost the lawsuit. He then appealed that decision, and it wasn't going well.

This is the situation that led to his suicide. Boeing 100% drove a man to kill himself. But no, they didn't fucking hire some guy to go kill John Barnett, that would be fucking stupid.

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[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Law enforcement would never lie.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you truly believe there should be investigations, you have to accept when the results of the investigations

That doesn't logically follow. It's like insisting OJ wasn't guilty of murder, because the criminal case didn't stick. But he was guilty of "wrongful death" because the civil suit did stick. What kind of conclusion do we draw when the police fumble the bag and private investigators continue to turn up incriminating evidence?

And even then, you can both have an investigation (even one that turns up culprits) and still have a cover-up.

There's even a term for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

According to Victor Marchetti, a former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a limited hangout is "spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."[

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 127 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But one ceo gets killed and the polic and fbi go all in

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