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[–] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 99 points 2 years ago (2 children)

✅ Western chauvinism

✅ Apathy

✅ Infantilization

Westoids never fail to disappoint. The liberalism on Lemmy has hit all time high. I'm so tired.

cringe

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

White man's burden is still the western foreign policy. Never changed.

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[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 71 points 2 years ago

The good news about posts like this is that they make me appreciate hexbear-chapochat a lot.

palestine-heart stalin-heart

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago

I'm just exhausted. "Unlike you, I believe the cop at my school is human." "I just can't endorse the use of violence." "We can't win anything if we're mean to people." "Hatred never got us anywhere."

Oh, where were you when all of the oppression was happening?

"I didn't agree with that, either."

Didn't think to smugly chide those in power, though, now did you? Because that's inevitable, but our response is unjustified escalation . . .

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago

This site is the only place I can look at news and politics discussion without feeling like I am completely insane

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

100% this guy does some retail or email/excel/IT office job. Why are they speaking like they have any influence on American foreign policy lmao

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[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't understand but I used to not understand too.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 49 points 2 years ago (5 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You cannot convince me this is not a child. This is baby's first reddit atheist moment (and I say this as a reddit atheist).

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[–] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The most Reddit comment to ever exist. Only missing a porn reference and the word "bacon" in there.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"why not just deploy some dual faithed Messiah figurehead"

He's actually asking for CIA Jesus?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

"Why don't we just trick all the simple minded brown people with a shiny new religion?"

Gee I wonder why Americans have a global reputation as being somehow both condescending and self righteous and simultaneously dumber than dogshit.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I blame Dune for injecting this idea into Liberal minds

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

smuglord Have they considered just not believing in a freaking sky wizard, since that's all this conflict is really about?

I took a look at their profile, and found casual ableism and misanthropy, the reddit-logo runs deep.

[–] utopologist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

We're reaching levels of liberal condescension that shouldn't even be possible

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unironic White Man's Burden shit

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

These Childlike Natives just cannot be trusted with the dehumanizing and oppressive social order that we graciously designed for them!

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

this is a certified us-foreign-policy moment

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that person American? Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more "adult" than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires

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[–] MalarchoBidenism@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

DAE le adults in the room? smuglord

[–] johnbrownwasright@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

"adults interfering" is how isn'treal was formed

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

i didnt used to understand foreign involvement …

hey everyone the war understander has logged on.

[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This imaginary of the non-European world as inherently stationary and needing to be dragged [by the West] into civilisation kicking and screaming naturally gravitated towards biological explanations of power relations. Within this context, invocations of [...] infantilising tropes were not just distasteful transgressions or individual eccentricities, but rather a way of justifying the imposition and monitoring of a wide range of juridical practices of domination and disciplining.

Ntina Tzouvala, from “Capitalism as Civilisation.”

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was readying a whole rant and your quote covered all my points succinctly. But I want to feel like I'm part of the discussion so I'll just regurgitate relevant stuff from media I enjoy

"Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth."

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I didn’t used to understand foreign involvement in wars

But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

First of all, that's racist as fuck. Second of all, are they saying what I think they are?

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Liberals are back to 2001 era "glass the desert" rhetoric.

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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

That post has to be by a child.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago
[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Adults need to intervene to take away that person's internet.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago
[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That first sentence is a real brain-melter

[–] Phish@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't, but I didn't used to, too.

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago
[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

"yeah, i've been paying attention to this conflict pretty much since i was born. don't think anything important happened with it before i was born so that's pretty much enough for me to comment on it."

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

bro just smoke a bone and mellow

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Except in this analogy somebody came into your sandbox, drew a little circle and said that's yours and the rest is mine, keeps knocking down the sandcastle you built in your circle for several decades and then when you got mad and knocked down one of his once your parents kill you.

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Its physically painful that most people think like this. Then they point fingers and say that other countries use propaganda and their citizens are clueless about reality.

[–] gabaghoul@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

While my partner didn't have a brain dead take like this, I did have to give them a thorough explanation earlier on why the Israeli occupation is unacceptable and always will be until the settlement is removed. My partner is aware of some terrible policies and why those policies shouldn't exist, but hegemonic diasporas simply aren't on their radar. I'm just glad they're receptive and try to understand rather than falling prey for dumb hot takes like the screenshot above.

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