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[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 145 points 1 year ago (15 children)

That's fucking wild! Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords. It will start with "we're only targetting cartels" and conclude with "these terrorists are purposely using hospital staff as human shields, what would you have us do?!"

[–] AverageGoob@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wild take here but I don't really think the US should be bombing ANY other nation.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not even Israeli or Russian troops in Palestine or Ukraine?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US could just stop sending weapons to Israel and the fighting will stop too. As for Ukraine, Zelensky has tried to make deals with Russia before and the West told him not to because they promised they'd continue backing him with more weapons that would give them the edge, which the US is obviously reneging on now (which, to be fair, is something Trump sort of said he'd do, so you could argue that's been democratically decided).

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Agreed on Israel, but you are WILDLY misrepresenting the context and tenor of the Ukrainian war.

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[–] iz_ok@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct. The US should stick to the tried and true method of supplying the weapons, teaching users how to maximize their effectiveness, and assist in the logistics of the altercations.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or just stop sticking our nose into everyone else's business.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 58 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords

I'll note that for the latter, it's a failed state ruled by warlords because the US rolled in and fucked everything up.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Afghanistan was all fucked up long before that.

[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 9 points 1 year ago

Arguably, Afghanistan has never been united as a nation in the way we think about it, at least not for long. The cycle seems to be short decades of control under some power followed by decades of decentralization and local powers.

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[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This statement is only relevant if your knowledge of history started in 1980.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Anyone else getting tired of this guy?

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In 1935. By 1940 everyone who was able to say that was already not in a position to say anything. US is just at the beginning of the journey.

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[–] Octopus_Man@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago
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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Drone bombing? So, like, starting a war?

I'll be interested to see how that pans out. Another powerful Dictator recently invaded a much smaller weaker nation, and that didn't turn out how everyone expected, so...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes pls. Give Mexico, Canada, and the rest of the democratic world the reason to Liberate the US from tyranny.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're a bit busy protecting ourselves from the US.

You Americans can fix your own damn problems.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How did you think the world protected themselves from fascism during WW2?

(Hint: Germans didn't fix it by themselves.)

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hint: Germans didn't fix it by themselves.

Of course, but the rest of the world didn't take those actions until after the German military moved into several other countries. And that action was done in the defense of those other countries as much as it was to spank the Germans.

Nobody is coming to the US to save the US from itself. Things will have to get a helluva lot worse before that happens.

And it won't be done to rescue the Americans, it will be intended to beat them into submission.

Plus, the rest of the world remembers that the Americans didn't help us in WW2 until the war finally came to their shores, after the rest of us had been fighting for 3 years.

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[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, the US spends more on military than the rest of NATO combined. How do you imagine a military engagement against the US would end for us?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Poorly but the US would lose like the loser country they are. MFs couldn't win against Vietnam or Afghan peasants.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

It doesn't quite feel right for other countries have to send their citizens to fight and die against a former ally just because American citizens can't hold their government accountable.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry mate, that's on you. Your founding padres even told you that unless you water your tree of liberty you might not keep your republic (paraphrasing Jefferson and Franklin here).

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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

If you want to know how it came to be that Palestinians elected and supported Hamas, just watch in real time as Mexican cartels step up to help Mexico resist American imperialism. I guarantee it will play out in an eerily familiar way if Trump keeps playing these games.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump thinks literally everyone is supposed to be subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.

I say Mexico drone strikes the source of it's gang's weapons supply; namely the gun manufacturers in the United States.

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.

Not quite - he wants them to be subordinate to him.

In olden days, Kings would force fealty by forcing others to "kiss the ring". That's exactly what he tries to do - and what was behind the ridiculous display with his guest, President Zelensky.

We've seen him hide behind his title again and again when people challenge him "You don't speak to the president like that!" Yet any small successes are entirely his doing. Shameful, if the man had any shame whatsoever.

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