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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Making "smart" devices that can't do routine mundane things without an active internet connection is completely fucking stupid.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I'm just boggled by the fact that "a toilet you flush with your phone" ever gof off the stoner couch. who the fuck wants to pull out a phone and press a button every time they take a piss.

Sensors if you move, yeah they're a thing that's given us all a surprise shifting our weight but a fucking app???

[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have your phone in your hands anyway, admit it!

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I ain't tabbin' out of lemmy for a courtesy flush

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I would expect a "smart" toilet to flush when I stood up or moved away. Why anybody would ever require a phone to turn on a faucet is beyond ridiculous.

[–] Fribbtastic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Smart" apparently doesn't mean "it does things on its own" but simply "you can control it over our app"

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[–] forkradiofact@lemm.ee 48 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Has nobody else pointed out this is clearly not real?

[–] cass80@programming.dev 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah first thing I did was search the web for more information. Zero results...

I bet most of these other commenters also complain about boomers eating up fake news.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

I have become the red shirt from my favorite SMBC comic

However, my feelings regarding smart devices remain intact

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[–] contrapunctus@lemmy.cafe 51 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.

Douglas Adams

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Adams's law.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Why would you ever get a toilet that requires anything but the laws of physics to operate?

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I mean... Electronics and the Internet are also following the laws of physics. But I get what you mean, levers should be the only activation, and gravity should be the only requirement.

That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

It sucks that a 1950's fridge can still function just fine today, but it also is a bigger strain on the power grid, and a leak in the refrigerant would destroy the ozone.

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[–] ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

You're already @ the mf toilet too, or the sink. what is even the purported purpose of remotely activating something you have to stand there to use?

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Okay, I get the idea of smart AC for example - be elsewhere, turn it on remotely so that it's comfortable when you get home. Fine. But a toilet? You are physically present there, you can push a button to flush. Or are you telling me that you're shitting remotely now too?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait, so you're not subscribed to shitme™? For a low monthly subscription they send you a sealed, self-addressed and postage-paid container to deposit your feces in, it gets sent to a sorting facility and distributed via drones or delivery drivers directly to your home toilet, where the feces are flushed in the privacy and safety of your own home! The peace-of-mind alone is worth the $39.98 a month. Up until now, the only challenge has been flushing the toilet while you're still at the office, this way you NEVER have to go home!

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[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you're shitting remotely now too?

Do we tell them about the remote shit technology that just landed from Uranus?

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Maybe it needs a connection cause it takes a picture of your feces and sends it to an AI analysis service. If anomalies are detected, it tells you that you should take the stool sample to a laboratory for further study, then lets you flush. Poof, smart toilet. I could see people with too much money buying this.

Edit: Thought about it some more.. why stop at feces images? Why not also have a high resolution camera pointed at your anus taking crowning shots and analyzing those. Tell users if anythings wrong. The future is ~~bright~~ brown boys. The future is brown.

Edit2: You could even have motion based security.. alert if anyone broke in through your bathroom. Cameras in toilets people! What could go wrong?

Edit3: Hear me out. User controlled bidet mode + anus camera. Take out your phone and clean your ass in first person. Score points if you clean your whole ass and compete on an online scoreboard. Tech sure is amazing.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If anomalies are detected, it tells your insurance company so they can increase your rates or drop you before you actually need to go to the hospital and cost them any money.

ftfy

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Sorry, Euro defaultism.. my healthcare is affordable. You can always run Tolet Assistant on a raspberry pi at home and let your shit never leave the network.

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

My sister's new apartment's front door has a "smart lock", hooked up to Ring, naturally. No keyhole, you open it with your phone. It also runs on batteries.

Do I really need to say any more? We were baffled.

EDIT: Correction - there IS a keyhole but the actual tenants don't have access to it. Only the property management. Creepy. :|

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Time for her to learn lockpicking I'd say.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (8 children)

"Hello amazon I'm a police, I need you to unlock this door at 123 Rainy St, Arlen TX 76043"

"Ok Mr. Police right away!"

Sounds great!

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[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have a smart deadbolt that is keypad operated. It’s awful.

Never used the smart features, and there isn’t a bypass to unlock the door when the batteries die — which happens a lot, especially in the winter. I tried using rechargeable batteries in it, but they last less than half the time of normal batteries.

There is nothing more frustrating than punching in the key code and hearing the death of HAL9000 voice before the deadbolt fully unlocks. Luckily I have a back door that isn’t smart.

I’m replacing the lockset soon and this won’t be a problem anymore, but holy shit is it frustrating and wasteful.

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[–] sowitzer@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

I got a Proteus IV system. Now I’m dead and my wife is knocked up.

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[–] SGG@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I've put a few smart lights/switches/sensors/power points in at home.

For ALL of them, I make sure there is a manual control that will work as a backup regardless. Even if a smart light is "off" due to the motion sensor not detecting movement, all you need to do is turn the old regular light switch off then back on and the light will default to being back on.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Day 3,801 of thanking God I was born a Luddite

Anyone who thought their toilet would be improved by having an internet connection deserves this

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I'm kind of far away fyom being a luddite, senior software developer, codes for fun, builds electronic stuff with wifi etc.

My toilet was built and installed before internet was invented and will not be changed for anything smart, neither is my toaster, dish washer, stove, locks, etc. etc. Ever. Over my dead body (if you want to be disinherited).

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

they can always ask chatgpt how to fix the problem

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't think any of these people know what "smart" is supposed to mean cause these must be the dumbest ideas for any product I've heard so far.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago

'Smart' means it can send your lifestyle data to the company, and make you dependent on their services.

You want to change your toilet provider? Best of luck holding your poo in for three days while the transfer is processed.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

"Dumb" is the new "smart".

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

And yet I hear dumbshits bragging all time about how alexa controls my (insert thing that definitely does not need automation here).

These sort of people never think beyond tomorrow and it shows.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 9 points 6 days ago

Home assistant everything is a yaml away

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Terminally online, even for #2

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[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

"oNe dAy wE wiLL aLL livE iN a sMaRt hOmE. tEcHnOLoGy aLwAyS iMpRoVeS"

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