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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Instances will rise and fall, but we can always just crack open a cold one with each other and open a new instance.

No more switching services... finally!

[–] wittycomputer@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

It will get corrupted, but we'll find the right crowd then, this shit always happens.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ragebait here is saying you like Windows for its open design.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

[–] RoamingWanderer@mander.xyz 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And we're allowed to say Nazi's are bad

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You just get the occasional weirdo from a weirdo instance arguing otherwise

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[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

Also, smaller servers means that it's easier to spot criminal communities and boot their asses. Also individual servers can be cracked down on for hosting evil content, without all of Lemmy being destroyed.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just wanted to let everyone know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.

None of these imaginary points fucking matter.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.

I know I have.

(Lemmy is rad as fuck)

[–] wittycomputer@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

I upvoted you for what it's worth. More worthless karma for you

[–] AnarchiaKapitany@lemm.ee 51 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Oh my sweet summer child. EVERY new service and SocMed site starts out like this. Fresh, fun, and working properly. Until the masses show up. That's when it goes to shit.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Eternal december.

I feel like white-list federation can fix it.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Give it another year or two and we'll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Give it another year or two and we’ll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

It has already happened with this piece of cancer.

https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

Find people who have low karma

When someone is consistently getting downvoted it’s likely they are a problem. PieFed provides a list of accounts with low karma, sorted by lowest first. Clicking on their user name takes you to their profile which shows all their posts and comments in one place. Every profile has “Ban” and “Ban + Purge” buttons that have instance-wide effects and are only visible to admins.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well guess I'm not using piefed. Still pissed about getting automatically temp muted on reddit years ago just for saying I didn't like skyrim that much.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh ok so we're just allowing straight hate speech now cool

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Waking up to this message made me scared of what sleepy me said last night lmao

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

idk about you but psychologically i never chceckef my ksrma scote but still pay some attention to how an individual comment/submission is perceived. cuz i took the time to write it and it's cool if people like/understand it and it's "important" if they dont (at least important to my rat brains)

as a departure from this mentality, i will not edit the typos

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I do this. I don't pay it too much mind, but it's helpful for seeing which posts or comments gain more traction.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 110 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

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[–] tauren@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

by ditching the Karma farmers

How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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[–] remon@ani.social 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"Karma" is just a counter of a user's recieved votes. It still exists on lemmy, most clients just choose to not display it.

Also where is this "value content" supposed to be?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Our value comes from our superior bean-based posting economy.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 30 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

The lack of karma is definitely a plus. Zionist trolls can downvote all they want, no one cares. In fact, there isn’t much of an incentive for any to invest in “downvote farms”.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We have plenty of astroturfing bots & powermods here. Once karma becomes a worthwhile metric for some to filter by, it’ll be abused & manipulated here, too.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There can be many reasons reddit sucks, but I'd argue its mostly because Spez is a mega douche and Reddit was captured by mods who had agendas and just silenced anyone who disagreed. Or they were paid to do it.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough, that without even seeing a karma total, some users have an unofficial "rapport", where I've seen them around enough to recognize whether they are the type to go against the grain, a perpetual troll, or a usually reasonable person with an unusually spicy take.

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[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then why are there so many beans and jeans on my front page?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Just Value Content

Literally right there in the title.

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