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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[โ€“] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really agree Google just took themself out of the market. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped their "search" product completely, the way they've dropped a lot of other good products along the way.

[โ€“] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 4 points 3 days ago

I've never forgiven them for getting rid of their search within results, that was brilliant

[โ€“] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

[โ€“] match@pawb.social 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

i switched from DDG to ecosia because of Lemmy and i gotta say it's even better

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[โ€“] Arfman@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Google is almost unusable for me even with ad block. I've been using DDG for the last 3 or so years now.

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

DDG sold out, very focused "bubble" results that they initally railed against.

[โ€“] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 11 points 4 days ago

I just realized the other day that I haven't typed !g in months.

[โ€“] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

yeah honestly I've been using ddg for a very long time and while a few years ago I had to frequently !g because search sucked now google got so enshittified many times ddg feels better

[โ€“] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I'd say the same. Google dorks work much better than DDG's filters for site-specific stuff, and generally for things like "search term" but for general searches DDG seems pretty similar.

The only things I've also had worse performance from DDG on compared to Google (in very minimal ways) has been:

  • Highly specific searches (e.g. searching for a diagram of the dimensions of common connector types, DDG shows side-by-sides of connectors, Google does that but also with more diagrams that have dimensions in them)
  • Context but not keyword based searches (e.g. "thing that has x y and z characteristics" returns more relevant results in Google than DDG, very marginally)

And of course, there's always the !s bang to run a search through Startpage (which uses Google) if I'm not getting enough detail.

[โ€“] Sickduck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

DDG does the job. Hopefully, I won't have to switch engines soon.

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[โ€“] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Definitely not; DDG has always been bad. However, as others have pointed out, Google is getting worse and every day. That said, it's still better than DDG, which isn't saying much.

There are no good search engines anymore. I got tired of having to add site:reddit.com to all or my searches to get actual answers, so now I've resorted to using AI and pretending that it isn't just making up half the shit it spews. Perplexity is a half decent replacement for a search engine; it's more accurate than most and it cites its sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/26764870

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[โ€“] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Probably so. Haven't used it much but Google has got so much worse. Being filled with adds and irrelevant results that DuckDuckgo probably is better now.

[โ€“] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

DuckDuckGo AKA Bing is complete dog doo. When you are looking for news it only tries to shove in the Microsoft MSN news page. The algorithm manipulation in favor of Western MSM bias is even heavier than Google. When you search certain terms it refuses to show articles containing those exact terms.

Yeah saying "DDG is as good as Google" means saying that DDG is worthless garbage lol

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[โ€“] dojan@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Google is mostly adverts. Wouldnโ€™t take much to be better than that.

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[โ€“] turnip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I use Yandex for finding pirated or otherwise censored content.

[โ€“] nullPointer@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

isn't it just a bing wrapper?

[โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No and kinda yes. Duckduckgo has its own webcrawler, but also adds in results from other sources including Bing, Yahoo and others.

[โ€“] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Last time I checked, it matched Bing results exactly.

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[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I find it's actually better at this point because it just gives results without AI summaries and ads, also I find it's just straight up better at actually finding what you're looking for

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[โ€“] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Have been using it for 8 years now. I never felt the need to switch back honestly. Only Google thing I really love is Maps and that's it.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

Gnome Maps is honestly really good!
Not everything has to be inside your browser.

[โ€“] lucg@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Tried OpenStreetMap? Quality varies by country though

[โ€“] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

So far its still less bloated

[โ€“] yata@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

I switched to it a couple of years ago, with the expectation that I had to resort to google in more complex search instances. But very soon I found out that ddg did the job, and my "alternative" google searches did not turn up anything better, quite the contrary in fact, and I haven't been back since.

[โ€“] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

What do people use google scholar for? Use jstor and other specific databases like arxiv

[โ€“] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Google just got worse.

[โ€“] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Google kind of went downhill

Kind of? It went Paul Rudd in Mac and Me.

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