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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[โ€“] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago

I just realized the other day that I haven't typed !g in months.

[โ€“] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

I've been using DDG since 2016 and never felt it was worse in terms of "search quality" than Google.

Especially nowadays I hear friends whine near weekly about Google, but it's still somehow "better than DDG".

Honestly people just make excuses not to change what they're use to. Even if what they're used to has changed around them for the worse.

My only real complain I have is I wish 'search by date range' was less finicky use and also worked in the image tab like it does in Google images.

[โ€“] dojan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Google is mostly adverts. Wouldnโ€™t take much to be better than that.

[โ€“] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

76% of their Q2 2024 revenue came from adverts. I'd rather pay with capitalist-consumerist shit on my screen than pay with money, but as everyone knows it's far too invasive rn. Ergo, I use uBlock, sponsorblock and I don't care about cookies.

[โ€“] suite403@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I finally left Google a month or so ago and its amazing how little I miss it.

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[โ€“] easily3667@lemmus.org 10 points 1 week ago (20 children)

You seriously can't type whatever dae means?

[โ€“] MrMeatballGuy@feddit.dk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never saw that abbreviation before, but my assumption is it's "does anyone else" since I can't think of anything else that'd make sense in this context

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[โ€“] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

DAE is a fairly common acronym on online forums, often used in titles such as these. You could have used Google (or DuckDuckGo) to learn its meaning ๐Ÿ˜Š

It's simply "does anyone else."

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[โ€“] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Iโ€™ve been online for almost thirty years and have never - knowingly - seen โ€œdaeโ€ as an abbreviation.

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[โ€“] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I really tried, I set duckduckgo as the default for my second browser (I use it a lot) to slowly get used to it, but every time results are so bad I get mad and switch to Google especially for images

[โ€“] shaggyb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I can turn off the horseshit firehose that we call AI, making it far better than google

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[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find it's actually better at this point because it just gives results without AI summaries and ads, also I find it's just straight up better at actually finding what you're looking for

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[โ€“] slomosapien@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

100%. I have not used google in about roughly 15 years. DDG has been my daily driver since 2010

[โ€“] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

So far its still less bloated

[โ€“] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've had to use !g way too much lately, so no.

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[โ€“] lucg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Eyeing the replies, does not one other person here get results constantly flooded with content farms? They've gotten significantly worse

But then, I don't use Google so maybe this is still better than Google Search?

It started maybe three years ago, around the same time as LLMs became usable for this, but I'm pretty sure >50% are human-written still. Probably the LLM generates the structure (saves any time they'd have to spend coming up with plausible-sounding texts) and someone from a low-income country is contracted to make it look more legit

Of course, queries for topics that have a Wikipedia page get Wikipedia first, recipes get tons of big-name recipe sites, products get stores. But when there's no obvious market around a topic, 3~4 out of 5 results are content farms pretending to have useful information to show unwary visitors ads

(As an alternative, I still have to try Kagi properly. It seemed on par with DDG when I did a few searches last year, but then their payment processor refused me trying to load my account, support was unhelpful, and I've gotten sidetracked since)

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[โ€“] limoncia@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I found Qwant to be a bit better, but yeah. Google got so much worse over last few years

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[โ€“] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really agree Google just took themself out of the market. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped their "search" product completely, the way they've dropped a lot of other good products along the way.

[โ€“] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 week ago

I've never forgiven them for getting rid of their search within results, that was brilliant

Naw. I use Kagi (paid) now, and get much better search results.

[โ€“] toastal@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

No. DDG still puts less priority in small blogs over Reddit posts. All bigger search engines put way too much stock & rank in corpo social media.

As a general purpose search engine yeah it's just as good. Google has some nice extra features which aren't too important (for example if you search UFC it shows full fight card info and results on the search page).

Where it falls behind is for more "power user " type work. I only use Google at work as it makes finding very specific results with keywords and date ranges on certain sites etc much easier.

Nowadays I use Qwant though to boycott us. It's much slower but still does the job for day to day use.

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

DDG sold out, very focused "bubble" results that they initally railed against.

[โ€“] yata@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I switched to it a couple of years ago, with the expectation that I had to resort to google in more complex search instances. But very soon I found out that ddg did the job, and my "alternative" google searches did not turn up anything better, quite the contrary in fact, and I haven't been back since.

[โ€“] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google kind of went downhill

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[โ€“] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Have been using it for 8 years now. I never felt the need to switch back honestly. Only Google thing I really love is Maps and that's it.

[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Gnome Maps is honestly really good!
Not everything has to be inside your browser.

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[โ€“] boreal@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Better usually in my experience. Google is mostly SEO-sludge anyway. Though sometimes when you need something very specific Google is better but that gap has been pretty much closed during 7+ years Iโ€™ve used DDG.

[โ€“] sanderium@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use Startpage and it feels like I always get the results I want even when I don't use perfect prompts. Just recently I got a three month free trial for Kagi and the results were better than google in my opinion, or at least less cluttered with "possibly related things" that are just ads in the end.

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[โ€“] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

yeah honestly I've been using ddg for a very long time and while a few years ago I had to frequently !g because search sucked now google got so enshittified many times ddg feels better

[โ€“] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not as good as google was when I was first allowed to use the internet 15+ years ago, but much better than today's google. Just so much more peace of mind to know that profit isn't what governs my search results.

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[โ€“] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

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