The fucking nerve for Trump to suggest Zelensky is gambling with WWIII. Ukraine is defending its own nation from invasion and the US is breaking every alliance it can find and causing tensions that remind me all too much of the lead up to WWI.
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The incoming prime minister should challenge Trump to a one on one fight for Greenland. If he refuses, all state heads should just make chicken noises every time they meet him.
feels wrong if the americans don't wager something. florida, maybe.
You're supposed to wager something with value, I don't think any other country would accept florida
"If we win, we get your country, if we lose, you get this garbage heap."
I'm sure Florida wouldn't be a garbage heap if it had proper management.
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That doesn't sound fair to Greenland if/when Trump loses.
It will look funny on maps when Canada shorts fit better because of that.
yes but remember; trump lives in florida. so he wouldn't actually give it up, and they'd be able to taunt him until he dies.
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I love this plan.
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With global warming new trade routes are going to open up through the artic. They will be extremely valuable and the countries geographically positioned to compete for them are going to be Russia, China, Canada, and Greenland. This is why America wants Canada and Greenland so bad and will do whatever it takes to get them.
America doesn't want Canada and Greenland trump does
I was surprised to find out this isn't a new political movement and we have a history of this twisted rhetoric.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movements_for_the_annexation_of_Canada_to_the_United_States
Trump just likes to listen to the fringe youtube historians and economists instead of the ones with real degrees and experience.
Thank you for the link I would like to note that from said link I draw this quote
Since the Treaty of Washington in 1871, when it first de facto recognized the new Dominion of Canada, the United States has never suggested or promoted an annexationist movement in Canada. No serious force has appeared on the American political scene that aimed to persuade or coerce Canadians into joining the United States. And no serious initiative for any move in this direction has come from the Canadian side either.
Trumps trade war with Canada which he said is to force them to submit to annexation is uniquely crazy in modern history.
In other news the world is round, vaccines are good, and the Holocaust definitely happened.
Since this was posted Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.
Some Joe Rogan, idiot-pilled fuckboi probably gave him the idea. Trump doesn't read, he is read to.
Despite all the Republican denial, someone must believe in climate change. Wonder how the true-believing cult takes this.
Also, with all the tariffs, why do we need trade routes?
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For what "national security reasons"? I'd like him to elaborate. Is Greenland somehow threatening the US? the only country threatening other countries in the area is the US.
Let me guess, natural resources.
Also strategic control of the melting and ever more passable Arctic, along with Russia. This also partly explains why Trump wants Canada.
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
The US already has that agreement!
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
Dismissing it as insanity undermines the culpability of what Trump is doing.
The point isn't whatever 'national security!' bullshit they're putching it as, the point is to piss of Greenland to the point of severing our relationship with them. Same with the shit he's doing to Canada, Panama, etc.
Trump's goal is to weaken the US, and he's accomplishing that in part by cutting us off from our allies.
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They already have strategic control over Greenland. Denmark would let the USA do almost whatever they want on greenland.
Denmark probably were the USAs biggests bitch in Europe until they started threatening Greenlands sovereignity.
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Yeah, but I thought climate change wasn't real.
It's really a bit of a giveaway that they know it's real but have chosen to kill everyone else while they extract profits for themselves, so they say it's not real.
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I'd like Trump, Musk and the whole republican party to go fuck themselves. For national security reasons.
I imagine it's to put defences in the Arctic....
But if Putin and Russia are fantastic and great people why does America need to guard the Arctic?
For those evil Norwegians, they might try to spread universal Healthcare!
He has americans convinced that they need to annex greenland to protect them from Russia and China. For some reason they think China is closer to greenland than to Hawaii …
But Trump loves Russia, aren't they great? Why would they ever be a threat?
I don't know a single American that believes what you just said. Most of us recognize this as bullshit.
Note: I'm not in a deep red state
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It's the same playbook used by Putin with Ukraine
If anything it's cause for national insecurity, given that if they invade, per NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
But Trump is used to getting what he wants by breaking the rules and facing no consequences, so I guess it'll be a FAFO thing.
I must admit, I do fear that if it comes to that NATO will fight the usual way - strong worded letter. For a buffoon who can't even read and only responds to a fat stick to the face.
This is going to be interesting because Article 5 assumes an attack on a member state by a non-member state.
By attacking Greenland, Trump would violate Articles 1 and 2 (pledging to use peaceful means to settle a dispute and contribute to friendly relations though you could argue he's violating the latter right now).
I think the whole point of this act is to force NATO to kick the US out of NATO, which is exactly what Russia (and by extension Trump) wants.
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Can they kick out the US and just ask the EU to station troops there instead?
Danish Defense Committee Chairman Rasmus Jarlov warned that US annexation "would mean war between two NATO countries."
It's going to be one NATO country soon if the US really goes through of leaving NATO.
It'll be an interesting time in the dumpster fire when Article 5 is invoked against the US.
I have a feeling he'll be the one to invoke Article 5, accusing Denmark of some "aggression" or another in his completely fucked-up authoritarian style.
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It is such an insult but he is incapable of empathy, not that he'd care if he could
Thanks to Greenland, a voice of sanity, in response to the muttered burblings of a demented turnip. In me you will find yet another US citizen that agrees with you, and respects your soveriegnty. The turnip is using this distraction to rob us blind, I fear.
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So I got curious and decided to pay a visit to my favorite site to see this... Greenland is about the size of the US Midwest. I did not know that until today.
I'm reasonably certain that Trump thinks Greenland is much larger. He is stupid, after all.
It's more about the resource extraction rights.
Ahhhhh. NOW the Canada and Greenland thing makes sense. If Trump took over Canada and Greenland, then Russia gains full control of the artic.
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Trump also undermined Denmark's claim to Greenland, saying it was "very far away
He is aware USA is even further away?
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